certificates! need some info!

scrambled legs · 19-05-2008, 11:59 AM

hi everyone,

quick question, at the vets where my girlfriend works, a man brought in 5 spur thighed tortoise eggs in and said does anyone want them... debra said that her boyfriend would like them (me) and she took them and put them in my incubator.

i know they made it to the incubator the same day as they were laid and that they are spur thighed but thats all!

debra didn't even ask the man any questions! so i don't know what subspecies they are.

the point of this is, . .when and even IF they hatch... i don't know because of the lack of info, ... i'll be needing certificates.

how do i get certificates for these tortoises if they hatch? i have no idea who the egg bringer was.

i've a sign up at the vets but he told debra his local vets was in the next town on..

do i need to find him for anything or can i just contact the officials>

any info would be great..

thanks

Neil.

swad1000 · 19-05-2008, 01:24 PM

I think to register any hatchlings you need the identies and both parents.

Not 100% though.

Henry-flash · 19-05-2008, 01:25 PM

You need the certificate numbers of both parents to be able to apply for hatchling certificates.

Not sure there is anyway around it.

Laraine · 19-05-2008, 02:47 PM

Contact DEFRA and explain what went on, and that you have been given eggs that were brought into the vets and ask their advice should they turn out to be fertile and hatch.

scrambled legs · 19-05-2008, 03:06 PM

i'll haveta have a look into this somewhere, .. i'll try a website.

i've no idea who or where this guy is, but his local vets in the next town is the same company my girlfriend works for so she'll be able to talk to the reptile vet there.

scrambled legs · 19-05-2008, 03:15 PM

DEFRA is the most confusing website in the world..

think i'll ring em...........

scrambled legs · 22-05-2008, 12:05 PM

we found the guy, he doesn't know what species of spur thigh they are, none have certificates and thats it!!

i can't tell if they are fertile yet but i'll contact defra by phone only if they show signs of fertility.

Henry-flash · 22-05-2008, 12:44 PM

It really is worth asking for ID photos of the adults, if he has a mix of sub-species it would be best to destroy the eggs before they hatch as you don't really want to be hatching hybrids.

scrambled legs · 22-05-2008, 03:16 PM

right-o 8)

i'll get debra to give him a call, i'll ask if we can go see them this weekend, and i'll be armed with my camera.

why do i always get into wierd situations!!

thanks for your help so far!

Neil.

Dazza · 22-05-2008, 03:54 PM

If you have no plans on selling the animals you would'nt need the certs

Its only if you plan to sell of breed and sell the young they would need registering

dazza

19-05-2008, 11:59 AM	#1
scrambled legs Member Hatched Join Date: May 2007 Location: suffolk Posts: 413	certificates! need some info! hi everyone, quick question, at the vets where my girlfriend works, a man brought in 5 spur thighed tortoise eggs in and said does anyone want them... debra said that her boyfriend would like them (me) and she took them and put them in my incubator. i know they made it to the incubator the same day as they were laid and that they are spur thighed but thats all! debra didn't even ask the man any questions! so i don't know what subspecies they are. the point of this is, . .when and even IF they hatch... i don't know because of the lack of info, ... i'll be needing certificates. how do i get certificates for these tortoises if they hatch? i have no idea who the egg bringer was. i've a sign up at the vets but he told debra his local vets was in the next town on.. do i need to find him for anything or can i just contact the officials> any info would be great.. thanks Neil. __________________ Neil.

19-05-2008, 01:25 PM	#3
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	You need the certificate numbers of both parents to be able to apply for hatchling certificates. Not sure there is anyway around it. __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

19-05-2008, 02:47 PM	#4
Laraine Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wirral Posts: 3,622	Contact DEFRA and explain what went on, and that you have been given eggs that were brought into the vets and ask their advice should they turn out to be fertile and hatch. __________________ Laraine ________________________

19-05-2008, 03:06 PM	#5
scrambled legs Member Hatched Join Date: May 2007 Location: suffolk Posts: 413	i'll haveta have a look into this somewhere, .. i'll try a website. i've no idea who or where this guy is, but his local vets in the next town is the same company my girlfriend works for so she'll be able to talk to the reptile vet there. __________________ Neil.

19-05-2008, 03:15 PM	#6
scrambled legs Member Hatched Join Date: May 2007 Location: suffolk Posts: 413	DEFRA is the most confusing website in the world.. think i'll ring em........... __________________ Neil.

19-05-2008, 01:24 PM	#2
swad1000 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,702	I think to register any hatchlings you need the identies and both parents. Not 100% though.

22-05-2008, 12:05 PM	#7
scrambled legs Member Hatched Join Date: May 2007 Location: suffolk Posts: 413	we found the guy, he doesn't know what species of spur thigh they are, none have certificates and thats it!! i can't tell if they are fertile yet but i'll contact defra by phone only if they show signs of fertility. __________________ Neil.

22-05-2008, 12:44 PM	#8
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	It really is worth asking for ID photos of the adults, if he has a mix of sub-species it would be best to destroy the eggs before they hatch as you don't really want to be hatching hybrids. __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

22-05-2008, 03:16 PM	#9
scrambled legs Member Hatched Join Date: May 2007 Location: suffolk Posts: 413	right-o 8) i'll get debra to give him a call, i'll ask if we can go see them this weekend, and i'll be armed with my camera. why do i always get into wierd situations!! thanks for your help so far! Neil. __________________ Neil.

22-05-2008, 03:54 PM	#10
Dazza Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,486	If you have no plans on selling the animals you would'nt need the certs Its only if you plan to sell of breed and sell the young they would need registering dazza __________________ www.inkaproducts.co.uk www.megaray.co.uk

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