!!GOT THIS IN EMAIL!!!Cameroon Tortoise Farm From 55 Euro Young Hermann etc,etc

babytort · 03-12-2008, 07:47 PM

Hi all.
have been looking for a tort breeder here in scotland.i am a beginner and have no experience on these wee creatures and have been looking/searched web and sent few emails for uk tort breeders and recieved email from this person.
Sorry im not sure how to do links!!

1)Sulcatas young will go for 55 €,then adults for 460 €.
2)Sri-Lankan Stars young will go for 60 €,then adults for 530 €
3)Burmese stars young will go for 45 €,then adults for 420 €.
4)Leopard tortoises (babcocki babcocki) young will go for 55
€,then adults for 460 €.
5)Elongata young will go for 45 €,then adults for 360 €
6)Spider young will go for 50 €,then adults for 410 €.
7)Hermanns young will go for 55 €,then adults for 560 €.
8)Greek species young will go for 75 €,then adults for 480 €.
9)Radiata young will go for 65 €,then adults for 380 €
10)Galopagoes young will go for 60 €,then adults for 460 €.
11)Aldabra young will go for 70 €,then adults for 500 €.
12)Russian young will go for 65€,then adults for 370 €

Thanks and hope to read from you .

I REPLYED TO THIS EMAIL BECAUSE I KNEW I DIDNT REQUEST ANY THING FROM THEM,AND ASKED FOR SOME QUESTIONS ALSO THE TORTS SEEMED SO CHEAP!!.

DO YOU BREED THESE YOURSELF (IM THINKING UK BRED)IF NOT WHERE ARE THE TORTS BRED?
HOW OLD ARE THE YOUNG?
AND HOW ARE THE TORTS TRANSPORTED?ETC,ETC
THIS WAS THE REPLY..

Hello there, Thanks for the reply,I understand what you mean people have just taking the internet to make money not no line business ok.I do bred this species my self ,i have been in this business for 23 years now.Am from Germany but at moment am in the Western Region of Cameroon wheremy tortoise farm is located .You have made the right choice since it is your first time in this business.For the young there are from 5 months to 3 years 2 weeks old.So when placing your order tell me ages you will want me to send to you ok.I use boxes to transport my turtles by air plane.I ship large quantities only on Wednesdays to Saturdays night and smaller quantities on Monadays to Wednesday morning .When i ship the turtles they are delivered right at your home address. Best Regards

IM NOT BUYING FROM THIS THIS PERSON,BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ???

lindso3000 · 03-12-2008, 08:07 PM

Looks a bit dodgy to me!

swad1000 · 03-12-2008, 08:15 PM

If he is shipping from western cameroon, who sorts out all the paper work?

Import/ export licences etc, personally it looks like an interent scam to me.

I'm not sure if any of those species are CITES 1 listed, if they are he can't be legally selling them across international borders anyway.

linda · 03-12-2008, 08:48 PM

it is screaming scam to me

Ozric Jonathan · 03-12-2008, 11:39 PM

I agree looks very dodgy. Breeders of this nature generally sell to someone else who then does the retail part of the trade in the UK. I know of a German breeder that moved to Turkey where their costs are lower, they ship their tortoises into Europe and the animals are sold through a large pet supplier. And who offers to ship a Galapagos tortoise from Western Africa to a buyer they know nothing about? Either a conman or someone who just doesnt care.

Paulg1 · 03-12-2008, 11:49 PM

Please. Look at some of those prices. SCAM. Has to be.

Laraine · 04-12-2008, 12:16 AM

As Linda has said this is a SCAM, please ignore it, there are so many scams coming from this region. Please do not give this person any of your personal details.

fantapants · 05-12-2008, 11:13 PM

recently there was a post on another forum in the snake section. same type of advert but for royal pythons. some poor sucker paid a £150 deposit and then got an email saying the snake would be shipped the following day. then he got an email from a french airport saying that they needed a payment for taxes and shipping. so he sent another £50. it cost himover £200 just to figure out he was being robbed blind. the advert he resonded to was from cameroon. i would stay away from it. FAR away!

you CAN get cheaper rare torts and reptiles from europe easy enough though, but i know most tortoise people dont like the idea of that.

sandy · 06-12-2008, 08:29 AM

This is possibley the site where you send the money and dont get a tortoise.
It screams scam to me too.
Why would you want to anyway, when you can get CB from a UK breeder.

gtm · 12-12-2008, 02:38 PM

Scam - avoid like the plaguue.

03-12-2008, 07:47 PM	#1
babytort Member Hatched Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: aberdeen Posts: 363	!!GOT THIS IN EMAIL!!!Cameroon Tortoise Farm From 55 Euro Young Hermann etc,etc Hi all. have been looking for a tort breeder here in scotland.i am a beginner and have no experience on these wee creatures and have been looking/searched web and sent few emails for uk tort breeders and recieved email from this person. Sorry im not sure how to do links!! 1)Sulcatas young will go for 55 €,then adults for 460 €. 2)Sri-Lankan Stars young will go for 60 €,then adults for 530 € 3)Burmese stars young will go for 45 €,then adults for 420 €. 4)Leopard tortoises (babcocki babcocki) young will go for 55 €,then adults for 460 €. 5)Elongata young will go for 45 €,then adults for 360 € 6)Spider young will go for 50 €,then adults for 410 €. 7)Hermanns young will go for 55 €,then adults for 560 €. 8)Greek species young will go for 75 €,then adults for 480 €. 9)Radiata young will go for 65 €,then adults for 380 € 10)Galopagoes young will go for 60 €,then adults for 460 €. 11)Aldabra young will go for 70 €,then adults for 500 €. 12)Russian young will go for 65€,then adults for 370 € Thanks and hope to read from you . I REPLYED TO THIS EMAIL BECAUSE I KNEW I DIDNT REQUEST ANY THING FROM THEM,AND ASKED FOR SOME QUESTIONS ALSO THE TORTS SEEMED SO CHEAP!!. DO YOU BREED THESE YOURSELF (IM THINKING UK BRED)IF NOT WHERE ARE THE TORTS BRED? HOW OLD ARE THE YOUNG? AND HOW ARE THE TORTS TRANSPORTED?ETC,ETC THIS WAS THE REPLY.. Hello there, Thanks for the reply,I understand what you mean people have just taking the internet to make money not no line business ok.I do bred this species my self ,i have been in this business for 23 years now.Am from Germany but at moment am in the Western Region of Cameroon wheremy tortoise farm is located .You have made the right choice since it is your first time in this business.For the young there are from 5 months to 3 years 2 weeks old.So when placing your order tell me ages you will want me to send to you ok.I use boxes to transport my turtles by air plane.I ship large quantities only on Wednesdays to Saturdays night and smaller quantities on Monadays to Wednesday morning .When i ship the turtles they are delivered right at your home address. Best Regards IM NOT BUYING FROM THIS THIS PERSON,BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK ???

03-12-2008, 08:07 PM	#2
lindso3000 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2,675	Looks a bit dodgy to me! __________________ Keeper of horsfields, redfoots, Hermans, bearded dragon and 2 rats

03-12-2008, 11:39 PM	#5
Ozric Jonathan Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 4,226	I agree looks very dodgy. Breeders of this nature generally sell to someone else who then does the retail part of the trade in the UK. I know of a German breeder that moved to Turkey where their costs are lower, they ship their tortoises into Europe and the animals are sold through a large pet supplier. And who offers to ship a Galapagos tortoise from Western Africa to a buyer they know nothing about? Either a conman or someone who just doesnt care. __________________ Testudo Hermanni Hermanni (Corse) tortoises

03-12-2008, 11:49 PM	#6
Paulg1 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 2,116	Please. Look at some of those prices. SCAM. Has to be. __________________ 0.1.0 G. sulcata/Larry 0.1.0 G. pardalis babcocki/Leo 1.0.0 G. pardalis pardalis/Tino "Stop the world, I want to get off!"

04-12-2008, 12:16 AM	#7
Laraine Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wirral Posts: 3,622	As Linda has said this is a SCAM, please ignore it, there are so many scams coming from this region. Please do not give this person any of your personal details. __________________ Laraine ________________________

03-12-2008, 08:15 PM	#3
swad1000 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,702	If he is shipping from western cameroon, who sorts out all the paper work? Import/ export licences etc, personally it looks like an interent scam to me. I'm not sure if any of those species are CITES 1 listed, if they are he can't be legally selling them across international borders anyway.

03-12-2008, 08:48 PM	#4
linda Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: west midlands Posts: 17,134	it is screaming scam to me

05-12-2008, 11:13 PM	#8
fantapants Member Hatchling Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 542	recently there was a post on another forum in the snake section. same type of advert but for royal pythons. some poor sucker paid a £150 deposit and then got an email saying the snake would be shipped the following day. then he got an email from a french airport saying that they needed a payment for taxes and shipping. so he sent another £50. it cost himover £200 just to figure out he was being robbed blind. the advert he resonded to was from cameroon. i would stay away from it. FAR away! you CAN get cheaper rare torts and reptiles from europe easy enough though, but i know most tortoise people dont like the idea of that.

06-12-2008, 08:29 AM	#9
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	This is possibley the site where you send the money and dont get a tortoise. It screams scam to me too. Why would you want to anyway, when you can get CB from a UK breeder. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

12-12-2008, 02:38 PM	#10
gtm Member Hatchling Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey Posts: 659	Scam - avoid like the plaguue.

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