urates

Mighty_Quinn · 16-03-2014, 02:25 PM

Quinn just passed the biggest urate I've ever seen him do....about the circumference of a 1p piece, it's very softwith a couple of gritty bits in it but I've never seen it this colour before.....is he dehydrated? The brown speckled are bits of coco coir.

Catwoman63 · 16-03-2014, 02:49 PM

Looks kinda grey, I think probably dehydration, I have seen some of mine not quite white before, but not been concerned about it as its white other times x

**egyptiandan64** · 16-03-2014, 10:16 PM

I agree with Bev a bit with dehydration, but more likely the gritty bits are calcium oxacilate sand (so basicly mini stones in the making). These have nothing to do with the urates (but do come out with it) but come from a moderate amount of oxalic acid in the diet. It's good they are being passed and not staying in the bladder to be added to.
Might want to check his diet and cut back on some of the food with oxalic acid in them.

Danny

Mighty_Quinn · 17-03-2014, 09:47 AM

The diet review will commence......Thanks folks!

Sammysale · 03-05-2014, 12:43 AM

Can I just ask would the green leaves from florette crispy salad contain oxalic acid?

**egyptiandan64** · 03-05-2014, 02:15 AM

Would all depend on whats in the bag. Spinach and Chard have a fair amount of oxalic acid in them and they can be found in packaged salad mixes.

Danny

Mighty_Quinn · 07-06-2014, 11:06 PM

Mmmm so Quinn just passed these........

I can't source enough leaves so it's supplemented with mixed leave salad (possibly contributing to stone formation) but I didn't want to feed him loads on pellets but would they be better than the salad?

**egyptiandan64** · 07-06-2014, 11:26 PM

Pellets would be much better than salad if the salad has spinach or chard in it. If you can just get a salad that is lettuces that would be better or just feed leafy (opened up) romaine lettuce heads (the greener the better).

Danny

Catwoman63 · 08-06-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mighty_Quinn

Mmmm so Quinn just passed these........

I can't source enough leaves so it's supplemented with mixed leave salad (possibly contributing to stone formation) but I didn't want to feed him loads on pellets but would they be better than the salad?

They look like little stones to me, have you got little stones in his housing? X

Mighty_Quinn · 08-06-2014, 10:28 AM

there is big slates in his table......these little stones where in among his urates they are solid. would stones formed in kidneys be that hard or would the crumble??

Maybe i should take out the slate for a while and just use pure coco coir and monitor???

16-03-2014, 02:25 PM	#1
Mighty_Quinn Member Hatchling Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: East Scotland Posts: 500	urates Quinn just passed the biggest urate I've ever seen him do....about the circumference of a 1p piece, it's very softwith a couple of gritty bits in it but I've never seen it this colour before.....is he dehydrated? The brown speckled are bits of coco coir. __________________

16-03-2014, 02:49 PM	#2
Catwoman63 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South East England Posts: 6,739	Looks kinda grey, I think probably dehydration, I have seen some of mine not quite white before, but not been concerned about it as its white other times x __________________ BEV XXX 0.3.0 - T Horsfieldii (Xena, Zelda & Lilly) 2.2.0 - TG Terrestris (Zeus, Astreus / Zagreus & Alexia) 1.2.0 - Zebra Finches (Gunner / Bonnie & May) 0.1.0 - SBT (Hazel) 1.0.0 - FBD (Ted)

16-03-2014, 10:16 PM	#3
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	I agree with Bev a bit with dehydration, but more likely the gritty bits are calcium oxacilate sand (so basicly mini stones in the making). These have nothing to do with the urates (but do come out with it) but come from a moderate amount of oxalic acid in the diet. It's good they are being passed and not staying in the bladder to be added to. Might want to check his diet and cut back on some of the food with oxalic acid in them. Danny __________________

17-03-2014, 09:47 AM	#4
Mighty_Quinn Member Hatchling Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: East Scotland Posts: 500	The diet review will commence......Thanks folks! __________________

03-05-2014, 12:43 AM	#5
Sammysale Member Hatched Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northampton/Liverpool Posts: 265	Can I just ask would the green leaves from florette crispy salad contain oxalic acid? __________________ xSammyx 1.1.0 horses, 2.1.0 cats, 1.0.0 dog, 0.0.2 Testudo hermanni boettgeri. Last edited by Sammysale; 03-05-2014 at 01:01 AM.

03-05-2014, 02:15 AM	#6
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Would all depend on whats in the bag. Spinach and Chard have a fair amount of oxalic acid in them and they can be found in packaged salad mixes. Danny __________________

07-06-2014, 11:06 PM	#7
Mighty_Quinn Member Hatchling Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: East Scotland Posts: 500	Mmmm so Quinn just passed these........ I can't source enough leaves so it's supplemented with mixed leave salad (possibly contributing to stone formation) but I didn't want to feed him loads on pellets but would they be better than the salad? __________________ Last edited by Mighty_Quinn; 07-06-2014 at 11:18 PM.

07-06-2014, 11:26 PM	#8
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Pellets would be much better than salad if the salad has spinach or chard in it. If you can just get a salad that is lettuces that would be better or just feed leafy (opened up) romaine lettuce heads (the greener the better). Danny __________________

08-06-2014, 10:28 AM	#10
Mighty_Quinn Member Hatchling Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: East Scotland Posts: 500	there is big slates in his table......these little stones where in among his urates they are solid. would stones formed in kidneys be that hard or would the crumble?? Maybe i should take out the slate for a while and just use pure coco coir and monitor??? __________________

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