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Old 06-10-2013, 03:23 PM   #11
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I'm sticking with Red cheeked muds as it doesn't look like a White throat muds to me (actually yours don't look like White throats either). Red cheeks are very variable depending on where in Central America they are from. White throats are very distinctive.

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Old 06-10-2013, 04:52 PM   #12
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I'm sticking with Red cheeked muds as it doesn't look like a White throat muds to me (actually yours don't look like White throats either). Red cheeks are very variable depending on where in Central America they are from. White throats are very distinctive.

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Danny,
The attached is an example of K cruentatum cruentatum.

For the benefit of "Pinkdirt" the attached picture is a pair of K c albogulare.
Adult males are very easy to sex in this species.

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Old 06-10-2013, 09:08 PM   #13
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Well your last picture looks like the HLB variety of Kinosternon leucostomum leucostomum.

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Old 06-10-2013, 09:51 PM   #14
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Well your last picture looks like the HLB variety of Kinosternon leucostomum leucostomum.

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I have several species of Kinosternidae in my collection and indeed I also have the White lipped mud turtle, (Kinosternon leucostomum).
A rather different looking animal.
Do you keep these species as well?
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No but a good friend keeps quite a few different species and subspecies of Kinosternon.

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Nahhhhhhh... that can't be it Dannys already IDed it.


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kinosternon cruentatum albogulare?
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No but a good friend keeps quite a few different species and subspecies of Kinosternon.

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Do you know Ronnie Hare?
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Thanks Ed

No I don't know Ronnie Hare. Where is he located?

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No I don't know Ronnie Hare. Where is he located?

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He lives in Illinois.
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