Any ideas ? Boys or girls ?

[Taszia]

Geoff now 2 years 9months



And George now 2 years 2 months

[egyptiandan64]

Geoff--Male
George--Female

Danny

[emma_mcraf]

I agree - male and female.

[Taszia]

Ok thank you ! Now for my next question ... Will I need to separate them? They are from the same breeder . Same mother dif father so obviously at some stage theyl try breed ? Kind of sad was hoping they could stay together and would be the same but I guess it's the risk u take x

[emma_mcraf]

They will need separating. Geoff will start to pester George(Georgina) and you'll probably find that George will get stressed. The ideal is 3 females to 1 male so there isn't one lone female getting hassled from the male.
I'm not sure about breeding between brothers and sisters in tortoises, but I would suspect that you could have a higher risk of deformities in the offspring, just like humans, but I'm sure Dan would be able to shed more light on that for you.

[Taszia]

Ok thanks . So sad it enjoy watching them stomp round together such a shame il have to separate them but il start designing my next table

[sandy]

Originally Posted by Taszia

Ok thanks . So sad it enjoy watching them stomp round together such a shame il have to separate them but il start designing my next table

If they have enough space, and ojects to block the eyeline, then there is less chance of them getting away from each other.
It's not automatic to spectate them.
Outside enclosures can also work well if large enough. Until hibernation time.
Of course if you don't hibernate, then you will always have this problem:0)

[egyptiandan64]

Not quite the same genetic problems breeding brother and sister with tortoises. It's not good to keep inbreeding but once is perfectly fine and won't cause problems. Also your 2 are only half related with having 2 different fathers.

Danny

[Taszia]

Thanks you so am I ok to keep them together until a certain age or signs of mating ? Coz as it stands there has been no interest both being young

[sandy]

Originally Posted by Taszia

Thanks you so am I ok to keep them together until a certain age or signs of mating ? Coz as it stands there has been no interest both being young

I would keep them together,until if and when you have problems.
I have kept male and female tortoises together for over 30yrs with few problems. If the males (two other to four females) get too frisky when it's really hot, then I seperate for a few days,until it cools down again. But this is rare, as my tortoises have plenty of room to escape each other. Space is the key, if they do get too stressed then they don't have enough room:0)