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Old 26-04-2012, 09:12 PM   #31
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they only store numbers which then tell them the details BUT TO FIND THE DETAILS THEY NEED A NUMBER !!! .
OK, OK, You don't have to shout, lol
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Old 26-04-2012, 09:14 PM   #32
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look if anyone need's help with a10's or wants to run something by me or just needs help with applying for one pm me anytime .
If someone has a tortoise they want to apply for an a10 that has never had one and your not sure pm me .
I don't mind helping anyone and the pm's will be kept private .
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Old 26-04-2012, 09:15 PM   #33
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I'm in trouble then. He's the one that went missing for years. We bought him about 2001 from a pet shop who had lads of them all piled into a small viv. The man said they were Russian or Afghan torts. They are still trading and still have torts but I don't know what they are as I've only spoken to him on the phone. Should I report them?
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Old 26-04-2012, 09:47 PM   #34
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Exactly so what the heck do you pay them for a useless database.
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Old 26-04-2012, 09:52 PM   #35
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To the best of my knowledge no you would not be in trouble it is the seller's responsibilty not yours. As long as you intend to just keep the tort I would not worry.
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Could I get into trouble for buying an Ibera without obtaining the A10 if it was sold to me as a "Russian"?
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Old 26-04-2012, 09:53 PM   #36
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I guess you pay for admin costs.
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Old 26-04-2012, 10:06 PM   #37
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Exactly so what the heck do you pay them for a useless database.
its not useless if you don't lose the papers
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Old 26-04-2012, 10:16 PM   #38
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How can they keep a record that was not issued? Unless they are in the stoneage... if a record is issued there should be a copy. If there is not a copy someone might want to address the situation with DEFRA. It is up to us/you to help them with a system that will allow... you... to keep species of special concern in the UK.

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IE DEFRA don't keep records as if they did they would know based on your name address and other relevant info you could give.
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Old 26-04-2012, 10:35 PM   #39
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Ed they keep record of A10 number and microchip number,I used the micro chip number ONLY to get my new A10 for the male hermann,Which i sold to a member of this forum.
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Old 26-04-2012, 10:37 PM   #40
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how could they have a system using names , the owners change the a10 numbers don't , its hardly rocket science !!
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