laws restricting sale of tortoises

[NATURALIS]

Originally Posted by Box girl

The interesting thing is that DEFRA do not keep copies of these certs or those that you send back to get reissued for whatever reason. Therefore I wonder the following:

• How do DEFRA know if you have a cert or not
• It appears unfair that if you lose the cert they will not issue another one as they have no records
• Therefore what is the point of a certificate?

I know the above as fact by the way

Really ??? i think you've got that wrong !!!

[Box girl]

No I am not a friend had this happen to her needed to change the name on the cert sent it back, got the new one and then lost it asked DEFRA for a new one they said we do not keep copies and throw away the old ones. Despite being able to give all info DEFRA will not give a new cert. So what is the point?
This person now unable to sell her tort.

AND IT'S THE TRUTH!!! Why would I have any reason to lie?

[NATURALIS]

Originally Posted by Box girl

No I am not a friend had this happen to her needed to change the name on the cert sent it back, got the new one and then lost it asked DEFRA for a new one they said we do not keep copies and throw away the old ones. Despite being able to give all info DEFRA will not give a new cert. So what is the point?
This person now unable to sell her tort.

AND IT'S THE TRUTH!!! Why would I have any reason to lie?

There's something not right there , all you need is either the chip number or a10 number , which are all kept on there data base in Bristol , if you lost one you would have to apply for a new one quoting the a10 number which would come back with a new number simples !!

[Pussygalore]

there's a thread about A10's on RFUK under the heading 'to all owners of shop brought torts' or very similar.

[NATURALIS]

Originally Posted by Pussygalore

there's a thread about A10's on RFUK under the heading 'to all owners of shop brought torts' or very similar.

seen it Ann there's nothing new there

[Box girl]

What if you did not have the A10 number only the microchip, believe me they do not keep records crazy I know.

Originally Posted by NATURALIS

There's something not right there , all you need is either the chip number or a10 number , which are all kept on there data base in Bristol , if you lost one you would have to apply for a new one quoting the a10 number which would come back with a new number simples !!

[NATURALIS]

Originally Posted by Box girl

What if you did not have the A10 number only the microchip, believe me they do not keep records crazy I know.

they do keep record's if you give them the chip number they will get back to you

[Box girl]

Ok in this case the person had a youngster no microchip no A10 number therefore no copy. Chris Newman concurs on RFUK.

[jeff]

I lost my male hermanns A10,All i done was give them the micro chip number and £25.A new A10 was sent out in little over a week.No fuss at all,So i think they must keep detailes on a data base.

[NATURALIS]

Originally Posted by jeff

I lost my male hermanns A10,All i done was give them the micro chip number and £25.A new A10 was sent out in little over a week.No fuss at all,So i think they must keep detailes on a data base.

Thank's jeff i know they do , like i said earlier if you have either the a10 number or chip number there should be no problem , where the problem's start is if you don't have either because then it has to be classed as a fresh application .