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I have a regime when feeding, pellets on there own twice a week, miss one day, no food after one of the pellet day's, weed's/plant's/greens the other day's. All year.
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...and a partridge in a peartree
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...two turtle .....doves....
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...and a tort -y hav-ing a pee.
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Interesting thread. Few first months i did not give anything apart from weeds and grass. In August I bought Zoomed Natural grassland Tortoise Food in preparation for winter months. She did not liked it to start with now she is eating it.
Content: chopped Grasses (Oat, Timothy and Alfalfa); Dandelion greens, Yucca and other plants that tortoises love; a source of live (viable) naturally occuring microorganismes. Few weeks ago in one garden chntre I found other dried food which looked attractive and similar (at first sight) to Zoomed I have and I purchased it as well. It is LuckyReptile HerbCobs. It is not complete food, only good for more fibre, content is only Hay. It has lovely strong grassy smell when added water, and has strong green colour. She did not touch herbcobs only eat Zoomed ones, which has pale yellow (boring) colour. The Luckyreptile Herb cobs got 11.5% protein (hay only), Zoomed Grassland Tortoise protein is less, 9%, same in Komodo complete. And I also have Komodo complete and they always preferred to any others, but as I read they dont have any grass only oats and maise, and calcium supplemet. Anyway I cant wait when weeds start growing again, it is hard to find anything now.
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It would be hard not to find in any untouched meadow grassland, wild oat grass, wild maize grasses. Good for tort's digestion. Hense the saying sowing your wild oat's.
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New applications for saponins in animal husbandry are being explored, especially the effect of saponins on protozoal diseases. Saponins form strong insoluble complexes with cholesterol. This has many important implications, including cholesterol-lowering activity in humans, discussed later in this article. Many protozoa enter the body via the digestive tract or cause their pathological effects in the gut. Saponins react with cholesterol in the protozoal cell membrane, causing the cell to rupture and lyse. Giardiasis (beaver fever), for example, is a disease with symptoms of severe diarrhea associated with the protozoan Giardia lamblia, often found in untreated drinking water, that can infect the small intestine. Research currently in progress at Agriculture Canada in Lethbridge, Alberta, has shown yucca extract to be very effective in killing Giardia trophozoites, which are the infective stages released in the gut when the oocytes, or eggs, sporulate, although no studies with humans have yet been done. Other important protozoal diseases of livestock, including coccidiosis and equine protozoal myoencephalitis, may be amenable to treatment with saponins. Ruminant animals (cattle, sheep and other cud-chewing animals with a complex stomach) have a large population of rumen protozoa. The rumen protozoa reduce the efficiency of fermentation in the rumen, and increases in animal performance often occur when the protozoa are removed (a process called defaunation). Yucca saponins are effective in suppressing rumen protozoa, again by reacting with cholesterol in the protozoal cell membrane, causing it to lyse.
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Babble...
Takes over from Al (and his UV readings...) and enough big words there to even make Kirkie's posts seem easy to read... "....The rumen protozoa reduce the efficiency of fermentation in the rumen" "Other important protozoal diseases of livestock, including coccidiosis and equine protozoal myoencephalitis, may be amenable to treatment with saponins." Last edited by yuna1971; 06-01-2011 at 09:36 PM. |
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