[Ozric Jonathan]

Mark that's great to hear about you keeping hermannis.

I agree with you about Hanako giving an honest answer and I personally wouldn't want her to be discouraged from carrying on with the hermanni hermanni breeding.

My personal view is that we should do what we can to maintain the different types of hermanni hermanni. But we are not going to re-stock wild habitats with tortoises that have been bred in gardens in Glasgow and London. So if they are not pure they are not 'polluting' the wild gene pool.

Also I don't quite agree with Suze that breeding different hermannis counts as cross-breeding. A lot of taxonomists still don't accept hermanni hermanni at all, never mind drilling down into localities.