Kalanchoe plant

Paige Lewis · 20-10-2010, 10:12 PM

I bought this plant today and whilst i know it is edible, i obviously won't let it any where near my tort for now as it may have been sprayed with chemicals, i am going to replant it into sterilized soil and then leave it a while before planting it into my torts enclosure, i was just wondering how long is the safest length of time to wait with store bought plants?

ziggy's owner · 20-10-2010, 10:37 PM

I would wait a few months,

Ozric Jonathan · 21-10-2010, 12:53 AM

I don't think this plant is now believed suitable. It appears on some older lists but more recently I have seen people say it contains compounds that are a hazard.

My suggestion would be not to feed it.

suttysue · 21-10-2010, 08:36 AM

I find it so so difficult to know what is & what isn't suitable for my girls (3 x horsefields)
There are so many different web sites for I D ing Torty Weeds / Plants and they seem to have many differing oppinions as to yes OK to feed Or no do not feed that i get so confused!!!.
Wish there was some 'rule of thumb' to go by
I too have fed mine Kalanchoe but have now been told it's no go so stopped feeding it. Shame as the girls loved it and tucked in.
So is it an OK to feed or not.

**16 shells** · 21-10-2010, 04:57 PM

This is what Wiki say's about the plant.
In common with other Crassulaceae (such as the genera Tylecodon, Cotyledon and Adromischus), some Kalanchoe species contain bufadienolide cardiac glycosides [3] which can cause cardiac poisoning, particularly in grazing animals.[4][5] This is a particular problem in the native range of many Kalanchoe species in the Karroo region of South Africa, where the resulting animal disease is known as krimpsiekte (shrinking disease) or as cotyledonosis.[6] Similar poisonings have also occurred in Australia.

To make feeding a tortoise easier you may consider feeding a good pelleted food, small amount's at first twice a week, any known weeds/plant can be fed with or on other day's. This method of feeding after a collection of weed's make them stretch a lot longer into the week. If pelleted feed is monitored and a good meal is excepted/eaten, a non feed day or two is common.

burnt toast · 22-10-2010, 09:51 AM

Blimey im surprised at that information. I wouldnt say I fed it often but I have fed it on occasions for a long while now, sods law they all love it & I have got quite a few together with Opuntia & Aloes for winter feeding - guess I will have to rethink that!

**16 shells** · 22-10-2010, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Burno

Blimey im surprised at that information. I wouldnt say I fed it often but I have fed it on occasions for a long while now, sods law they all love it & I have got quite a few together with Opuntia & Aloes for winter feeding - guess I will have to rethink that!

It did say certain species of the plant are toxic, i have mentioned before if say a qualified Botonist/chemist/tort keeper were to draw a list of safe plant's, it would probably go into the hundred's.

**Alan1** · 22-10-2010, 07:43 PM

I've never heard of kalanchoe plant

any relation to robert plant?

Ozric Jonathan · 22-10-2010, 11:34 PM

I don't think its a huge poison or anything, but some of the Kallanchoes do contain compunds that might be a hazard especially if the tortoise ate a lot of it. There isn't all that much food on them anyway..........I doubt its worth bothering myself, but each to their own!

ClareandCo · 23-10-2010, 07:04 AM

Its also known as Flaming Katy. Some sites says it shouldn't be fed to tortoises, and others say its ok! I had one many, many years ago, and my cat used to chew on the leaves, being a succulent I presume he liked the "chewiness", similar to Sedum leaves?

20-10-2010, 10:12 PM	#1
Paige Lewis Member Hatched Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Swansea, Wales Posts: 265	Kalanchoe plant I bought this plant today and whilst i know it is edible, i obviously won't let it any where near my tort for now as it may have been sprayed with chemicals, i am going to replant it into sterilized soil and then leave it a while before planting it into my torts enclosure, i was just wondering how long is the safest length of time to wait with store bought plants? __________________ 2 year old testudo hermanni hermanni - Jimmy

20-10-2010, 10:37 PM	#2
ziggy's owner Senior Member Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: west midlands Posts: 4,152	I would wait a few months, __________________ 2.0.0 spur thighs 2.3.0 hermanns 2.1.1 marginated 0.0.4 leopard 2.8.0 guinea pigs 1.2.0 Springers 1.0.0 hamster 0.0.1 Blue Tongue skink 2.2.0 Beardies And tropical fish Also have baby marginated tortoises for sale

21-10-2010, 12:53 AM	#3
Ozric Jonathan Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 4,226	I don't think this plant is now believed suitable. It appears on some older lists but more recently I have seen people say it contains compounds that are a hazard. My suggestion would be not to feed it. __________________ Testudo Hermanni Hermanni (Corse) tortoises

21-10-2010, 04:57 PM	#5
16 shells Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Hull Posts: 7,286	This is what Wiki say's about the plant. In common with other Crassulaceae (such as the genera Tylecodon, Cotyledon and Adromischus), some Kalanchoe species contain bufadienolide cardiac glycosides [3] which can cause cardiac poisoning, particularly in grazing animals.[4][5] This is a particular problem in the native range of many Kalanchoe species in the Karroo region of South Africa, where the resulting animal disease is known as krimpsiekte (shrinking disease) or as cotyledonosis.[6] Similar poisonings have also occurred in Australia. To make feeding a tortoise easier you may consider feeding a good pelleted food, small amount's at first twice a week, any known weeds/plant can be fed with or on other day's. This method of feeding after a collection of weed's make them stretch a lot longer into the week. If pelleted feed is monitored and a good meal is excepted/eaten, a non feed day or two is common. __________________ Paul.

22-10-2010, 11:34 PM	#9
Ozric Jonathan Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 4,226	I don't think its a huge poison or anything, but some of the Kallanchoes do contain compunds that might be a hazard especially if the tortoise ate a lot of it. There isn't all that much food on them anyway..........I doubt its worth bothering myself, but each to their own! __________________ Testudo Hermanni Hermanni (Corse) tortoises

21-10-2010, 08:36 AM	#4
suttysue Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: UK / Eng / Yorkshire Posts: 1,483	I find it so so difficult to know what is & what isn't suitable for my girls (3 x horsefields) There are so many different web sites for I D ing Torty Weeds / Plants and they seem to have many differing oppinions as to yes OK to feed Or no do not feed that i get so confused!!!. Wish there was some 'rule of thumb' to go by I too have fed mine Kalanchoe but have now been told it's no go so stopped feeding it. Shame as the girls loved it and tucked in. So is it an OK to feed or not.

22-10-2010, 09:51 AM	#6
burnt toast Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,245	Blimey im surprised at that information. I wouldnt say I fed it often but I have fed it on occasions for a long while now, sods law they all love it & I have got quite a few together with Opuntia & Aloes for winter feeding - guess I will have to rethink that!

22-10-2010, 07:43 PM	#8
Alan1 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny Scotland Posts: 21,512	I've never heard of kalanchoe plant any relation to robert plant?

23-10-2010, 07:04 AM	#10
ClareandCo Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,350	Its also known as Flaming Katy. Some sites says it shouldn't be fed to tortoises, and others say its ok! I had one many, many years ago, and my cat used to chew on the leaves, being a succulent I presume he liked the "chewiness", similar to Sedum leaves?

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