I.D. please..

sprakey34 · 19-12-2014, 09:31 AM

Hi, i plan to hibernate this little fella for someone else and would like to check his I.D for sure before going ahead. His owner was told he was a spur thigh when he was bought 15 yrs ago and was given all the wrong husbandry info hence why this boy looks the way he does- not sure how easy this will make I.D.ing him. Things have change 100% for the better for him and he is a lively chap. Would like answers quickly if anyone can help as he is at the end of his winddown( he only came to me 2 days ago, his owner has done the winddown).
Many thanks
Meriel.x

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Gordon · 19-12-2014, 10:44 AM

Have to be honest that is awful, the old owner really has done a poor job with this poor tortoise.
As for ID i am swaying towards a spur of some sort but not 100% sure. As for hibernating it i really wouldn't are you saying the old owner has done the pre hibernation wind down or his new owner

emma_mcraf · 19-12-2014, 12:11 PM

Oh, poor tort.

I can't see spurs so I thought Hermanns too.

sprakey34 · 19-12-2014, 12:49 PM

Hi, he has only had one owner since being bought from pet shop 15 yrs ago. Yes his owner now knows he unwhittingly didn't give him the best care but has made huge changes and he now has the correct care.
Thanks
Meriel

Suze65 · 19-12-2014, 01:47 PM

Oh dear that is bad, I'm swaying towards spur thigh, but not sure. Personally I wouldn't hibernate this poor chap.

sandy · 19-12-2014, 02:06 PM

There are spurs, but not sure what species as there is so much damage done to the poor thing.
I would guess Tunisian or Libyan as colouring is not right for graecas or ibera. But still its just a guess.
I personally wouldn't hibernate him this year, give yourself chance to really get to know the tortoise.
You might not have a choice, as if he has hibernated before, he might just windown himself.
Some of these deformed tortoises can be real charactors:0)
If you have had him some time and feel you are confident enough to hibernate him, then do so:0)

sprakey34 · 19-12-2014, 04:42 PM

Hi, thank your for replies. This tort is not mine, I offered to hibernate him for his owner who acknowledges that his past care was not good though totally unintentional and has made huge changes in husbandry. He has not hibernated before as his owner did not know what to do. I did know he was small and had some deformity but I only saw him for the first time yesterday.
Meriel.x

Catwoman63 · 19-12-2014, 07:44 PM

Oh no poor tortoise, I wouldn't hibernate him, I agree a spur thigh of some sort, poor thing

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**egyptiandan64** · 20-12-2014, 02:38 AM

It is a Tunisian spurthigh, Testudo graeca nabeulensis

They do not hibernate.

Danny

sprakey34 · 20-12-2014, 07:54 AM

Thank you, thank you. I will resume normal husbandry today and tell his owner. Thanks
for all replies.
Meriel.x

19-12-2014, 09:31 AM	#1
sprakey34 Member Egg Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fareham, Hampshire Posts: 73	I.D. please.. Hi, i plan to hibernate this little fella for someone else and would like to check his I.D for sure before going ahead. His owner was told he was a spur thigh when he was bought 15 yrs ago and was given all the wrong husbandry info hence why this boy looks the way he does- not sure how easy this will make I.D.ing him. Things have change 100% for the better for him and he is a lively chap. Would like answers quickly if anyone can help as he is at the end of his winddown( he only came to me 2 days ago, his owner has done the winddown). Many thanks Meriel.x http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Me...fc1a1.jpg.html http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5c2f550c.jpg http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...psb713238e.jpg http://i1377.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4d4819f4.jpg http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Me...a70bd.jpg.html http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Me...04390.jpg.html http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Me...74590.jpg.html http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Me...169c3.jpg.html http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/Me...9db89.jpg.html Hope this has worked.

19-12-2014, 10:44 AM	#2
Gordon Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 5,675	Have to be honest that is awful, the old owner really has done a poor job with this poor tortoise. As for ID i am swaying towards a spur of some sort but not 100% sure. As for hibernating it i really wouldn't are you saying the old owner has done the pre hibernation wind down or his new owner Last edited by Gordon; 19-12-2014 at 02:41 PM.

19-12-2014, 12:11 PM	#3
emma_mcraf Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Devon Posts: 11,365	Oh, poor tort. I can't see spurs so I thought Hermanns too. __________________ Emma Testudo Hermanni 5.12.2:Theo, Tamara, Tabitha, Harriet, Isabelle, Clara, Oscar, Hugo, Oliver, Florence, Arabella, Esmé, Aurelia, Felicia, Claudia, Atticus, Celestia, Amaris, Tristan and Clementine Budgies: Jasper, Ivo, Otis, Henry, Louie and Luca Doggies: 1.1.0 Chester and Lottie

19-12-2014, 01:47 PM	#5
Suze65 Senior Member Adult Join Date: May 2012 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 6,769	Oh dear that is bad, I'm swaying towards spur thigh, but not sure. Personally I wouldn't hibernate this poor chap. __________________ Suze. 3 THB, Sammy, Jemima, & Phoebe 7 Marginated, Tabitha, Ptolome, Tatiana, Noah,Lottey, Lulu & Poppy 1 TGG (Emma) RIP Feb 2012

19-12-2014, 02:06 PM	#6
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	There are spurs, but not sure what species as there is so much damage done to the poor thing. I would guess Tunisian or Libyan as colouring is not right for graecas or ibera. But still its just a guess. I personally wouldn't hibernate him this year, give yourself chance to really get to know the tortoise. You might not have a choice, as if he has hibernated before, he might just windown himself. Some of these deformed tortoises can be real charactors:0) If you have had him some time and feel you are confident enough to hibernate him, then do so:0) __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

19-12-2014, 12:49 PM	#4
sprakey34 Member Egg Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fareham, Hampshire Posts: 73	Hi, he has only had one owner since being bought from pet shop 15 yrs ago. Yes his owner now knows he unwhittingly didn't give him the best care but has made huge changes and he now has the correct care. Thanks Meriel

19-12-2014, 04:42 PM	#7
sprakey34 Member Egg Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fareham, Hampshire Posts: 73	Hi, thank your for replies. This tort is not mine, I offered to hibernate him for his owner who acknowledges that his past care was not good though totally unintentional and has made huge changes in husbandry. He has not hibernated before as his owner did not know what to do. I did know he was small and had some deformity but I only saw him for the first time yesterday. Meriel.x

19-12-2014, 07:44 PM	#8
Catwoman63 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: South East England Posts: 6,739	Oh no poor tortoise, I wouldn't hibernate him, I agree a spur thigh of some sort, poor thing x __________________ BEV XXX 0.3.0 - T Horsfieldii (Xena, Zelda & Lilly) 2.2.0 - TG Terrestris (Zeus, Astreus / Zagreus & Alexia) 1.2.0 - Zebra Finches (Gunner / Bonnie & May) 0.1.0 - SBT (Hazel) 1.0.0 - FBD (Ted)

20-12-2014, 02:38 AM	#9
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	It is a Tunisian spurthigh, Testudo graeca nabeulensis They do not hibernate. Danny __________________

20-12-2014, 07:54 AM	#10
sprakey34 Member Egg Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Fareham, Hampshire Posts: 73	Thank you, thank you. I will resume normal husbandry today and tell his owner. Thanks for all replies. Meriel.x

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