Help please Marni has been sick!

marnismum · 09-02-2009, 09:06 AM

Hello there, When Marni got up this morning she had a mess round her mouth when I looked in her hide she had been sick.Any ideas on a reason please. Myself I think she is greedy and I am silly enough to give her more food but she always seems to be hungry.Every thing esle seems to be fine.

Thanks Marnismum

ME SHELL · 09-02-2009, 10:25 AM

Hi Marnismum, I'm not an expert, but it sounds to me your tort may have worms. I would take him to the vet for a check over armed with a poo sample.

Michelle x

**Bindi** · 09-02-2009, 11:09 AM

Hi there, Me Shell is right, it could be a worm infestation, it could be over feeding or feeding foods that are too rich in protein, carbohydrates or sugars. What are you feeding your tort on?
Also what are the temperatures on your table?

sandy · 09-02-2009, 12:09 PM

It also could be something she has eaten. Some sort of toxin.
Usually if its worms they go off their food, but it still could be worms.

marnismum · 09-02-2009, 12:13 PM

Hi Me Shell and Bindi thanks for your reply

She is fed mostly on weeds but some days I give her abit of lettuce from a florette mixed bag or broccoli or cauliflower she is rather greedy and always looking for food.
I,am sure her temps are fine 32 under lamp and 24 at cool end she goes of to bed about 4 o'clock with no heat at night as she is in a nice warm part of the house.
She is a bit of colour today has'nt rearly woken up spending all her time basking has'nt gone to look for food at all. I hav'nt given her any yet
Should I bath her?

thanks Marnismum

marnismum · 09-02-2009, 12:17 PM

Hello Sandy thanks
Could you explain more as to what you mean by some sort of toxin please I don't quite understand. Sorry.

linda · 09-02-2009, 12:27 PM

i believe sandy means that your tort may have eaten a weed or plant

that may be unsafe

as in it may contain something toxic / poisonous to the tort

and the body is trying to get rid of this by vomitting

VOMITING
Spontaneous vomiting should always be regarded as a serious symptom. Caused by: Lack of digestive enzyme activity due to too low a temperature; Parasite infestation ('worms'or flagellates), or ingestion of toxic material affecting digestive system; Generalised septicaemia or bacteraemia.
Vomiting may also occur during force-feeding, or when handling too roughly.
Treatment: identify causal factor.

sandy · 09-02-2009, 12:31 PM

Sorry for not explaining and thankyou to Linda

If you had been picking weeds, it could be some sort of toxin on the weeds, or a weed that is toxic to tortoises.

**Alan1** · 09-02-2009, 12:34 PM

Cauliflower, is that safe?? I know broccoli isn't too good

linda · 09-02-2009, 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caledonia

Cauliflower, is that safe?? I know broccoli isn't too good

they are not ideal foods but i dont think they would cause vomitting

09-02-2009, 09:06 AM	#1
marnismum Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norfolk Posts: 60	Help please Marni has been sick! Hello there, When Marni got up this morning she had a mess round her mouth when I looked in her hide she had been sick.Any ideas on a reason please. Myself I think she is greedy and I am silly enough to give her more food but she always seems to be hungry.Every thing esle seems to be fine. Thanks Marnismum __________________

09-02-2009, 11:09 AM	#3
Bindi Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,157	Hi there, Me Shell is right, it could be a worm infestation, it could be over feeding or feeding foods that are too rich in protein, carbohydrates or sugars. What are you feeding your tort on? Also what are the temperatures on your table? __________________

09-02-2009, 12:09 PM	#4
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	It also could be something she has eaten. Some sort of toxin. Usually if its worms they go off their food, but it still could be worms. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

09-02-2009, 12:13 PM	#5
marnismum Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norfolk Posts: 60	Hi Me Shell and Bindi thanks for your reply She is fed mostly on weeds but some days I give her abit of lettuce from a florette mixed bag or broccoli or cauliflower she is rather greedy and always looking for food. I,am sure her temps are fine 32 under lamp and 24 at cool end she goes of to bed about 4 o'clock with no heat at night as she is in a nice warm part of the house. She is a bit of colour today has'nt rearly woken up spending all her time basking has'nt gone to look for food at all. I hav'nt given her any yet Should I bath her? thanks Marnismum __________________

09-02-2009, 12:17 PM	#6
marnismum Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Norfolk Posts: 60	Hello Sandy thanks Could you explain more as to what you mean by some sort of toxin please I don't quite understand. Sorry. __________________

09-02-2009, 10:25 AM	#2
ME SHELL Senior Member Adult Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 8,484	Hi Marnismum, I'm not an expert, but it sounds to me your tort may have worms. I would take him to the vet for a check over armed with a poo sample. Michelle x

09-02-2009, 12:27 PM	#7
linda Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: west midlands Posts: 17,134	i believe sandy means that your tort may have eaten a weed or plant that may be unsafe as in it may contain something toxic / poisonous to the tort and the body is trying to get rid of this by vomitting VOMITING Spontaneous vomiting should always be regarded as a serious symptom. Caused by: Lack of digestive enzyme activity due to too low a temperature; Parasite infestation ('worms'or flagellates), or ingestion of toxic material affecting digestive system; Generalised septicaemia or bacteraemia. Vomiting may also occur during force-feeding, or when handling too roughly. Treatment: identify causal factor.

09-02-2009, 12:31 PM	#8
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	Sorry for not explaining and thankyou to Linda If you had been picking weeds, it could be some sort of toxin on the weeds, or a weed that is toxic to tortoises. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

09-02-2009, 12:34 PM	#9
Alan1 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny Scotland Posts: 21,512	Cauliflower, is that safe?? I know broccoli isn't too good

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