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Old 17-08-2018, 12:04 PM   #1
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Default Reproductive behavior of a male t.graeca

Hello everyone, i own a pair of t. graeca (ibera i suppose). Female 40+ yo, with my family since baby, and male bought 3 years ago, he's 13 yo.

They are both in good health (i'm a vet) but since the male arrival, no attempt of mating was observed, neither any kind of interest from the male (e.g. biting). I own other species and i always observed reproductive behavior from males earlier than normally indicated in books, bit this isn't the case.

I don't know if it's possibile that the female does not attract males anymore due to age, but time ago she was with an adult t.h.h that was very violent with her. I think it's a male problem and so my question is if anyone had ever experienced this situation with a male of this species/Age (and size, look at the photo).

My unique other ideas is to perform an endoscopy to evaluate reproductive organs appearance, but i want to know more expert opinions on the breeding topic.

(With any animal species i personally think that collaboration between medical notions of a vet ad pratical experience of an expert breeder can give the best results)

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Old 17-08-2018, 12:35 PM   #2
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I have kept iberas for over 37yrs, and have bred from them, having three females now adult from the original male and female:0)
It is unusual for a male not to be interested in a female, no matter what age they are:0)
Females can produce eggs until a really ripe old age, my females still lay eggs (although I dont incubate them any more) I have one female that is easily over 40yrs old. My oldest female that I bred was hatched in 1988 and is the most popular with my male as she is the biggest.
Have you tried separating the male from the female for a month or so?
Sometimes this can help.
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Old 17-08-2018, 12:39 PM   #3
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Are you 100%certain it's male can we see a pic of tail end from underneath.
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Old 17-08-2018, 12:50 PM   #4
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Of course it's a male, i have no photos right now but trust me, i need help but not that much

I tried a separation of about 1 and a half month last year with no results (no try this year).
As i imagined this lack of interest is not usual, thanks
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Old 17-08-2018, 01:42 PM   #5
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Of course it's a male, i have no photos right now but trust me, i need help but not that much

I tried a separation of about 1 and a half month last year with no results (no try this year).
As i imagined this lack of interest is not usual, thanks
A friend who kept hermans, had a male with five females and the male prefered an old shoe to mate with. So it does happen:0)
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Old 17-08-2018, 01:45 PM   #6
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If i can find some way to obtain his semen i will do artificiali insemination, but i never seen him acting as he wanted to mate with anyone/anything :/
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Old 18-08-2018, 09:26 PM   #7
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[QUOTE=Lorebassi;675591]Of course it's a male, i have no photos right now but trust me, i need help but not that much

Well that put you in your place Gordon!
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Old 19-08-2018, 07:26 AM   #8
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Of course it's a male, i have no photos right now but trust me, i need help but not that much

Well that put you in your place Gordon!
I was going to reply but as we all know vets always know what they are talking about when it comes to tortoises unlike me.
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Old 17-08-2018, 06:25 PM   #9
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mmmm it's a conundrum. then again some of my females are a little more active than other males and I know Banjo Duo just sits a bit perplexed with all the activity subjected on him !! but he has been cajoled by his brother for years before he cam to me and bears the scares still. look forward to photos ! CB
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Likewise!!
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