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I'm fine thanks. Sorry when I said go into survival mode I meant she starts to wind herself down ready for the coming winter and hibernation, that's means she will stop eating and bask less and no she is not "left outside with the elements", why would you think that. (She has her own heated conservatory and can watch the sun setting every night if she wants too.) I provide extra heat through out the year as she is a big girl and the odd bit of sun that gets through the cloud around here generally isn't enough, at the end of August I supply heat and light to keep her active as long as I can, even if it is just a week or two. (Hibernation usually start some time in November) She was WC at about 10cm so I presume she has hibernated all her life, probably if I brought her inside and isolated her from the sun and seasons completely she wouldn't wind herself down ! But I have no reason to do that, I don't find hibernation a problem. "You say" ! Yes I did say, I have hibernated her for the last 35 years, although I was only 10 when my mum got her I took over most of her essential husbandry as my mother and father didn't have a clue. (They did the usual no water, moveable square pen on the lawn etc) My mother looked after when I was away working until her death about 18 years ago. |
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As an example last night I changed "wouldn't naturally hibernate in the wild to "species that keepers wouldn't normally hibernate" (big deal) And that was only to keep the thread going off on a tangent but your welcome to put it back in if you want stells. I presume big brother can't see post while we're writing/previewing them, but who knows. Regarding your confusion. I remember a discussion about using the term "outside", you said something like anywhere outside of the house was outdoors, I disagreed but you obviously know best. So yes she was outdoors with the seasons, she is now indoors. |
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Kelly... you way off here ... you cant generalize just because some ed says so !
No matter what I do in the fall regarding heating ( up to 40 degrees under spot), light etc. mine will eventually dig down and im NOT talking 1-2 tortoises , but way past 100 ! Alls kept outside for the record and all being meds which the keeper in us dont have much experience with.He has proven that way too many times. Happy Christmas Quote:
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You wanna buy some Aldabras... well started... surgically sexed... not cheap. I do have an import/export permit. Sending them to the UK is not a problem... you pay all shipping and permit costs at your end... what do you think.
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I think I've done as much. Many new keepers seek information online. They are bombarded with opinions of how they must keep their tortoises. Not knowing any better... they follow that dictation. It's a complex hobby with no single correct way to proceed.
I don't think the OP was doing what was best... I do think she was doing what she was told. I'm always open to questions. I don't advise PM because there are many others with the same question that might benefit. Quote:
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No... there is no benefit to hibernating a tortoise in captivity... except to the keeper.
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So like Ed always tries to say the choice to bruminate is the keepers and not the tortoises. Danny
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No thanks Ed, if I lived somewhere warm & sunny & all year round then maybe. Yes I do get the point and I agree that hibernation isn't a necessity, unless of course it is.
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