T.g.nabeulensis Female swap for Hermanns Female

Dawn Fletcher · 30-05-2009, 07:01 PM

I have just become a foster mum for this gorgeous smooth tortoise. She is fully grown I beleive as she measures 6 inch in length (155 mm) and weighs 669 grams.
Her last owners beleived she was a Hermanns.
I got her expecting a hermanns to turn up...only to be confronted with this little beauty!!

Unfortunatly she has no paper work so you will need to apply to defra for that and get her microchipped if you want to breed from her in the future.

Ideally I would like to do a straight swap for a female Hermanns but I am open to ideas.

I am up loading all the pics I have of her so far for you to see just how lovely she is.
She is eating a completly natural diet of weeds and plants.

Alyson · 31-05-2009, 12:45 AM

Oh she is just beautiful!!

Pitty your so far away. I bet she wont be waitning long.

Dawn Fletcher · 31-05-2009, 09:35 AM

I hope not!! I have a lady that is interested. Im not sure how much I should be asking for her though......any ideas?
I only know how much I paid for her thinking that she was supposed to be a Hermanns

swad1000 · 31-05-2009, 09:40 AM

Well with out paper work, you can't sell her.

And she doesn't look old enough to have been brought in before the 1984 ban, so I doubt defra will provide paper work, as she is being traded illegally.

Dawn Fletcher · 31-05-2009, 09:50 AM

Ok well thank you any way for your views.

Dawn

Henry-flash · 31-05-2009, 01:31 PM

Have to agree with what has already been said. I would be very careful as they are having quite a crackdown on illegal trading lately.

Dawn Fletcher · 31-05-2009, 03:50 PM

Think alot of people just call em Tunisian spur thighs.

She was id'eed by egyptian dan

Dawn

ThomasClan · 31-05-2009, 05:36 PM

She looks pretty mature to me (But what do I know

),going on the size of her and her well grown shell.If you know her full history and can prove she was aquired before the 1984 ban,and get letters from previous owners then Defra might consider some form of paperwork, but you need a full history that they can check. As said above you can only rehome them with no paperwork, I have 2 without paperwork I checked with Defra and the nice lady explained as I did not want to sell them and I had just rehomed them then it was ok, but I have kept the details of the person I got them from as advised by the defra lady, so if Defra ever came to call then they can go back to the previouse owners.

Good luck with rehoming her she is lovely, If I lived close I would love her.

Anna xx

Dawn Fletcher · 31-05-2009, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasClan

She looks pretty mature to me (But what do I know

),going on the size of her and her well grown shell.If you know her full history and can prove she was aquired before the 1984 ban,and get letters from previous owners then Defra might consider some form of paperwork, but you need a full history that they can check. As said above you can only rehome them with no paperwork, I have 2 without paperwork I checked with Defra and the nice lady explained as I did not want to sell them and I had just rehomed them then it was ok, but I have kept the details of the person I got them from as advised by the defra lady, so if Defra ever came to call then they can go back to the previouse owners.

Good luck with rehoming her she is lovely, If I lived close I would love her.

Anna xx

Many thanks for your help on this matter.......will look into it further.

Dawn

Katie-n-spoon · 02-06-2009, 12:49 AM

I had two without paper work.
I spoke to defra and have got breeding certificates for them both which allows me to sell any future offspring if I wished but they themselves can never be sold. Which is fine by me

lol.

30-05-2009, 07:01 PM	#1
Dawn Fletcher Banned Sub Adult Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Leeds Posts: 1,174	New home found this thread can now be deleted please!! I have just become a foster mum for this gorgeous smooth tortoise. She is fully grown I beleive as she measures 6 inch in length (155 mm) and weighs 669 grams. Her last owners beleived she was a Hermanns. I got her expecting a hermanns to turn up...only to be confronted with this little beauty!! Unfortunatly she has no paper work so you will need to apply to defra for that and get her microchipped if you want to breed from her in the future. Ideally I would like to do a straight swap for a female Hermanns but I am open to ideas. I am up loading all the pics I have of her so far for you to see just how lovely she is. She is eating a completly natural diet of weeds and plants. Last edited by Dawn Fletcher; 07-06-2009 at 10:45 AM.

31-05-2009, 01:31 PM	#6
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	Have to agree with what has already been said. I would be very careful as they are having quite a crackdown on illegal trading lately. __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

31-05-2009, 03:50 PM	#7
Dawn Fletcher Banned Sub Adult Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Leeds Posts: 1,174	Think alot of people just call em Tunisian spur thighs. She was id'eed by egyptian dan Dawn Last edited by Dawn Fletcher; 31-05-2009 at 04:26 PM.

31-05-2009, 05:36 PM	#8
ThomasClan Member Hatched Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dorset Posts: 348	She looks pretty mature to me (But what do I know ),going on the size of her and her well grown shell.If you know her full history and can prove she was aquired before the 1984 ban,and get letters from previous owners then Defra might consider some form of paperwork, but you need a full history that they can check. As said above you can only rehome them with no paperwork, I have 2 without paperwork I checked with Defra and the nice lady explained as I did not want to sell them and I had just rehomed them then it was ok, but I have kept the details of the person I got them from as advised by the defra lady, so if Defra ever came to call then they can go back to the previouse owners. Good luck with rehoming her she is lovely, If I lived close I would love her. Anna xx __________________ Flower, Bill, Petal and Ben Tunsian Tortoises Alfie & KC Rottweillers Bramble Border Terrier x Jack Russel Jay JRT Old lady of 16 (17 this year) Bilbo the Rabbit old man 9 years Oh and the Hamsters Thunder and Lightning (I must be mad)

02-06-2009, 12:49 AM	#10
Katie-n-spoon Member Hatched Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: North Devon Posts: 250	I had two without paper work. I spoke to defra and have got breeding certificates for them both which allows me to sell any future offspring if I wished but they themselves can never be sold. Which is fine by me lol. __________________ Katie, Spoon, Wilfee, and Hermie xx 2.1.0 hermanns- Spoon, Wilfee, Hermie 1.1.0 tunisians- Daisy, Buttercup 0.1.0 dogs- Ripley 0.1.0 cat- Chloe- rip sweetie

31-05-2009, 12:45 AM	#2
Alyson Junior Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 7	Oh she is just beautiful!! Pitty your so far away. I bet she wont be waitning long.

31-05-2009, 09:35 AM	#3
Dawn Fletcher Banned Sub Adult Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Leeds Posts: 1,174	I hope not!! I have a lady that is interested. Im not sure how much I should be asking for her though......any ideas? I only know how much I paid for her thinking that she was supposed to be a Hermanns

31-05-2009, 09:40 AM	#4
swad1000 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,702	Well with out paper work, you can't sell her. And she doesn't look old enough to have been brought in before the 1984 ban, so I doubt defra will provide paper work, as she is being traded illegally.

31-05-2009, 09:50 AM	#5
Dawn Fletcher Banned Sub Adult Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Leeds Posts: 1,174	Ok well thank you any way for your views. Dawn

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