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KayMarie · 15-01-2007, 08:50 PM

I'm confused

yam yam · 15-01-2007, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eire_Ade

Yam yam, to clarify, its 7 parts limestone flour to 2 parts nutrabol mixed together and added to food daily, like i think you are already doing.

Ade

thanks ADE

15-01-2007, 08:55 PM

It's maths<g> If you sprinke a supplement of any type over a days supply of leaves then that is correct supplementation at the correct ratio as advised for that species. If you mix that supplement with a larger amount of another substance and apply at the same rate then the original supplement is diluted or weakened, a bit like drug dealers do to rip off the addicts, and a bit like diluting gin with tonic rather than filling the glass with pure gin. Is this clearer

**Eire_Ade** · 15-01-2007, 08:58 PM

I understand what you are saying Sue, I was under the impression that the ratio thing was enough daily that it wouldnt overdose like you say limestone can be given freely but nutrabol is to be given in a doseage.

The correct dose being 1 pinch to 1 kilo of body weight which in fact when you are talking of small hatchlings is not a lot at all.

Ade

KayMarie · 15-01-2007, 08:59 PM

Yeah, i understand what you're saying wizzasmum, thas commen sense BUT i'm confused about how i should be distributing my supllements

I've worked out tht i will give nutrobol twice a week, Limestone powder 2 a week and TNT twice a week, this gives him a break of a day with nothingon his food

15-01-2007, 09:02 PM

Exactly but hatchligns do not each much either so a pinch would well cover a days supply without adding limestone. I do add limestone for older ones but then they do not need so much nutrobal as growing torts. It's also true of m ost hatchlings that if you put a heavier sprinkling on then they are not so likely to eat it. Just my humble opion of course but there do seem to be a fair few people mentioning soft shells.

KayMarie · 15-01-2007, 09:04 PM

I only sprinkle it over oscars food because he turns his nose up at it otherwise. I was told Oscar was two though, so how much do you think he needs?

15-01-2007, 09:07 PM

Kay Marie - nutrobal should be given daily. LImestone is up to you TNT is up to you. TNT is not a nutrobal substitute having totally different formulation and not being an essential supplement. The dosage you are stating is cutting the nutrobaol to twice a week which is insufficuent for baby torts according to Tortoise Trust which is the route I tend to follow

15-01-2007, 09:09 PM

Growing torts need nutrobal daily - that's all I have to say on the subject - my brain is fried

KayMarie · 15-01-2007, 09:12 PM

Ok, Nutrobol daily it is then. I was told 3 times a week.

15-01-2007, 08:58 PM	#24
Eire_Ade Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 8,422	I understand what you are saying Sue, I was under the impression that the ratio thing was enough daily that it wouldnt overdose like you say limestone can be given freely but nutrabol is to be given in a doseage. The correct dose being 1 pinch to 1 kilo of body weight which in fact when you are talking of small hatchlings is not a lot at all. Ade __________________ Ade ----------------------------------------------- Y.O.B 1971 (40 years young! ) My Tortoises :- Dug (Testudo Graeca Ibera Terrestris (Syrian), Penny, JJ (JennyJack), Buttons and Gem (Testudo Graeca Ibera)

15-01-2007, 08:50 PM	#21
KayMarie Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire :D Posts: 1,252	I'm confused

15-01-2007, 08:55 PM	#23
wizzasmum Guest Posts: n/a	It's maths<g> If you sprinke a supplement of any type over a days supply of leaves then that is correct supplementation at the correct ratio as advised for that species. If you mix that supplement with a larger amount of another substance and apply at the same rate then the original supplement is diluted or weakened, a bit like drug dealers do to rip off the addicts, and a bit like diluting gin with tonic rather than filling the glass with pure gin. Is this clearer

15-01-2007, 08:59 PM	#25
KayMarie Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire :D Posts: 1,252	Yeah, i understand what you're saying wizzasmum, thas commen sense BUT i'm confused about how i should be distributing my supllements I've worked out tht i will give nutrobol twice a week, Limestone powder 2 a week and TNT twice a week, this gives him a break of a day with nothingon his food

15-01-2007, 09:02 PM	#26
wizzasmum Guest Posts: n/a	Exactly but hatchligns do not each much either so a pinch would well cover a days supply without adding limestone. I do add limestone for older ones but then they do not need so much nutrobal as growing torts. It's also true of m ost hatchlings that if you put a heavier sprinkling on then they are not so likely to eat it. Just my humble opion of course but there do seem to be a fair few people mentioning soft shells.

15-01-2007, 09:04 PM	#27
KayMarie Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire :D Posts: 1,252	I only sprinkle it over oscars food because he turns his nose up at it otherwise. I was told Oscar was two though, so how much do you think he needs?

15-01-2007, 09:07 PM	#28
wizzasmum Guest Posts: n/a	Kay Marie - nutrobal should be given daily. LImestone is up to you TNT is up to you. TNT is not a nutrobal substitute having totally different formulation and not being an essential supplement. The dosage you are stating is cutting the nutrobaol to twice a week which is insufficuent for baby torts according to Tortoise Trust which is the route I tend to follow

15-01-2007, 09:09 PM	#29
wizzasmum Guest Posts: n/a	Growing torts need nutrobal daily - that's all I have to say on the subject - my brain is fried

15-01-2007, 09:12 PM	#30
KayMarie Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire :D Posts: 1,252	Ok, Nutrobol daily it is then. I was told 3 times a week.

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