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Old 27-01-2014, 01:14 PM   #11
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There really isn't a 'best'. In fact UVB is not a necessity. Calcium metabolism can be facilitated through other perfectly acceptable means as far as many reptiles and amphibians are concerned.

It depends on the diet you feed and the supplementation you provide... if any.

There's tons of information out there... much of it is misleading... I suspect for the sake of simplicity.

If you're here to learn... specific questions are going to be your best bet because this is a really complex issue.
Absolutely true Ed. I don't use UV lights of any description and my torts are as hard s nails and as fit as a butchers dog. Pellets and supplements are all I use. Research is the key, and lots of it.
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Old 27-01-2014, 07:30 PM   #12
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"The thermometer sits at about 30degrees at the lamp, but the room can drop to maybe 10degrees! So I was wondering if I'd need another heat lamp, that doesn't emit light and could be left on at night? Her enclosure 3ft x 4ft so the temp can vary quite a lot from where the lamp is.
Many thanks, Moira."

I can see that the anti-uv light brigade is happy to jump on any opportunity but uv is not what is being asked about. The OP mentioned the use of a combined lamp but has not made any enquiry here about uvb exposure, only temperature.
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Old 27-01-2014, 07:41 PM   #13
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I can see that the anti-UV light brigade is happy to jump on any opportunity but UV is not what is being asked about. The OP mentioned the use of a combined lamp but has not made any inquiry here about uvb exposure, only temperature.
I see the trouble makers are quick to jump on those who are giving alternative views.
I'm not anti UV, far from it. I have a UV tube for my Bearded dragon. It's not so easy to provide D3 for lizards as it is Torts.
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Absolutely true Ed. I don't use UV lights of any description and my torts are as hard s nails and as fit as a butchers dog. Pellets and supplements are all I use. Research is the key, and lots of it.
mmm. Butchers' dogs are an endangered species as are butchers, except those employed by supermarkets.

Tortoises can see uv light, and they expect to see it. I wouldn't like to be kept in the dark myself.
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Old 27-01-2014, 07:43 PM   #15
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Why don't you answer the OP's question then? Maybe you don't know what temperature sulcatas are supposed to be kept at.

You're just answering a question that wasn't asked. Have fun with that.
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mmm. Butchers' dogs are an endangered species as are butchers, except those employed by supermarkets.

Tortoises can see uv light, and they expect to see it. I wouldn't like to be kept in the dark myself.
What a ridiculous thing to say.

Hmm, never seen my torts stumbling into things, they have very good eyesight in fact.
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I wouldn't like to be kept in the half dark then.
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I wouldn't like to be kept in the half dark then.
That's why we like to point out the alternatives, so people aren't kept in the half dark.
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The OP has not asked if the sulcata needs uvb or not so I'm baffled as to how we got here.

But since we have, I agree with Arcadia John that providing uva and uvb is ultimately a welfare issue as well as a health one. The difference is that he works for a company that makes these things and are in business to sell products so they have a vested interest, which I don't.

Tortoises can definitely see uva and uvb and seeing those parts of the light spectrum is linked to activity and behaviour patterns. Why wouldn't we provide any? To save a few quid?
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But since we have, I agree with Arcadia John that providing UVA and UVB is ultimately a welfare issue as well as a health one. The difference is that he works for a company that makes these things and are in business to sell products so they have a vested interest, which I don't.

He does indeed have a vested interest.


Tortoises can definitely see UVA and UVB and seeing those parts of the light spectrum is linked to activity and behaviour patterns. Why wouldn't we provide any? To save a few quid?
It does indeed save quite a bit of money. But there is no detriment to their health in mine and many peoples opinion.
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