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abelly08 · 19-12-2011, 10:26 AM

They have had hatchlings before yes, and I am not looking at hibernating them yet as I have only just got them. I have spent around £700+ so far and need to wait until after Christmas until I can furnish the top tier to put the male in and then when needed I will put the male with female to breed.

Box girl · 19-12-2011, 10:29 AM

Where will you keep the male till then?
You will only need to put the male with the female for a very short time as on a one to one males can be very agressive. Look at you housing for outside as well as they will need to be kept separate.

abelly08 · 19-12-2011, 10:32 AM

I will keep them together until New Year, and I am going to partition a large area of grass and put a hide in, soil and rocks etc but looking at the safest way to stop them escaping at the moment for when it does come to putting them outside.

Box girl · 19-12-2011, 10:55 AM

As stells says you really should try and keep the male separate or he could hurt your female I keep one male to 8 females and have no problems that way.

abelly08 · 19-12-2011, 11:47 AM

I am going to keep the male separate in new year when I have the lighting etc to put him in the top table as I can't afford to do the top one just yet. They will be separate but for now I don't have a choice, and they have always been kept together for 15 years and never been apart so I am sure another 2 weeks latest won't hurt them until they are separated. I am looking at getting a couple more females as someone suggested 3:1 ratio male to females.

shaz · 19-12-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by abelly08

I am going to keep the male separate in new year when I have the lighting etc to put him in the top table as I can't afford to do the top one just yet. They will be separate but for now I don't have a choice, and they have always been kept together for 15 years and never been apart so I am sure another 2 weeks latest won't hurt them until they are separated. I am looking at getting a couple more females as someone suggested 3:1 ratio male to females.

Dont mean to sound rude but should you really be getting them if you cant afford to care for them correctly from day one.

I picked up a male hermans a few months ago and fell in love with the horsefield that he was kept with so ended up with two when i was expecting only one. I had to separate them and MADE room and found money for lighting etc.

Shelled Lady · 20-12-2011, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by abelly08

I am going to keep the male separate in new year when I have the lighting etc to put him in the top table as I can't afford to do the top one just yet. They will be separate but for now I don't have a choice, and they have always been kept together for 15 years and never been apart so I am sure another 2 weeks latest won't hurt them until they are separated. I am looking at getting a couple more females as someone suggested 3:1 ratio male to females.

I would suggest you DO NOT get another couple of females until you have experience with what you have now. Males can be extremely aggressive and females need their own space most of the time. It is not fair to keep them together always. It wouldn't happen in the wild and a table is small compared to living outside.

Re your table, you only need to put top soil in it and a clip on basking lamp to start with. You can swap the tortoises around for their dose of the UV until you get another. They also need to hibernate to breed.

abelly08 · 20-12-2011, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Shelled Lady

I would suggest you DO NOT get another couple of females until you have experience with what you have now. Males can be extremely aggressive and females need their own space most of the time. It is not fair to keep them together always. It wouldn't happen in the wild and a table is small compared to living outside.

Re your table, you only need to put top soil in it and a clip on basking lamp to start with. You can swap the tortoises around for their dose of the UV until you get another. They also need to hibernate to breed.

I understand it is not fair to keep them together always which is why the male is going to be separated and placed in the top bunk. I am going to look at hibernating next year as I am only just getting them. The previous owners always kept them together not me.

Box girl · 20-12-2011, 12:27 PM

Maybe the previous owner had more space. Why don't you do as suggested and put the male in the top part with soil and a bulb he will do fine overwinter there. Add the D3 in the diet.

abelly08 · 20-12-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Box girl

Maybe the previous owner had more space. Why don't you do as suggested and put the male in the top part with soil and a bulb he will do fine overwinter there. Add the D3 in the diet.

Ok I will do that

19-12-2011, 10:26 AM	#11
abelly08 Member Egg Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 50	They have had hatchlings before yes, and I am not looking at hibernating them yet as I have only just got them. I have spent around £700+ so far and need to wait until after Christmas until I can furnish the top tier to put the male in and then when needed I will put the male with female to breed. __________________ “Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” ― Dr. Seuss

19-12-2011, 10:29 AM	#12
Box girl Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Glos Posts: 1,326	Where will you keep the male till then? You will only need to put the male with the female for a very short time as on a one to one males can be very agressive. Look at you housing for outside as well as they will need to be kept separate. __________________ www.ukchelonia.info Money raised to Allwetter Zoo Muenster e6000 sent so far. Have bred-red foots, yellow foots, eastern box, 3 toed box, ornate box, gulf coast box, common musk, elongated tortoise, red eared terrapin, cuora flavomarginata, cuora amboinensis, hermanns tortoise, horsfield tortoise, rhinoclemys.p. manni, european pond turtle, reeves and spurs

19-12-2011, 10:32 AM	#13
abelly08 Member Egg Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 50	I will keep them together until New Year, and I am going to partition a large area of grass and put a hide in, soil and rocks etc but looking at the safest way to stop them escaping at the moment for when it does come to putting them outside. __________________ “Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” ― Dr. Seuss

19-12-2011, 10:55 AM	#14
Box girl Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Glos Posts: 1,326	As stells says you really should try and keep the male separate or he could hurt your female I keep one male to 8 females and have no problems that way. __________________ www.ukchelonia.info Money raised to Allwetter Zoo Muenster e6000 sent so far. Have bred-red foots, yellow foots, eastern box, 3 toed box, ornate box, gulf coast box, common musk, elongated tortoise, red eared terrapin, cuora flavomarginata, cuora amboinensis, hermanns tortoise, horsfield tortoise, rhinoclemys.p. manni, european pond turtle, reeves and spurs

19-12-2011, 11:47 AM	#15
abelly08 Member Egg Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: South Yorkshire Posts: 50	I am going to keep the male separate in new year when I have the lighting etc to put him in the top table as I can't afford to do the top one just yet. They will be separate but for now I don't have a choice, and they have always been kept together for 15 years and never been apart so I am sure another 2 weeks latest won't hurt them until they are separated. I am looking at getting a couple more females as someone suggested 3:1 ratio male to females. __________________ “Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind.” ― Dr. Seuss

20-12-2011, 12:27 PM	#19
Box girl Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Glos Posts: 1,326	Maybe the previous owner had more space. Why don't you do as suggested and put the male in the top part with soil and a bulb he will do fine overwinter there. Add the D3 in the diet. __________________ www.ukchelonia.info Money raised to Allwetter Zoo Muenster e6000 sent so far. Have bred-red foots, yellow foots, eastern box, 3 toed box, ornate box, gulf coast box, common musk, elongated tortoise, red eared terrapin, cuora flavomarginata, cuora amboinensis, hermanns tortoise, horsfield tortoise, rhinoclemys.p. manni, european pond turtle, reeves and spurs

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