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Lou · 18-12-2008, 11:23 AM

so sorry Linds... but like previous have said.. don't give up... its nothing you've done... xxx

swad1000 · 18-12-2008, 11:54 AM

Hi Linds I'm probably one of the more outspoken of the group when it comes to animal care.

There is a big big difference between an accident, and not being fit to look after animals.

You can't watch them 24/7 I'm sure every keeper here has found there tortoises flipped upside down in there enclosures at some point, 99.9% of the time we turn them right side up and they are just fine, unfortunately this was one of those times it wasn't, but it truly wasn't your fault.

It would be a shame for you to give up the rest of your tortoises, from what is obviously loving home.

Try not to blame your self, I'm sure you will be lavishing even more love and attention of the rest of your tortoises.

alotoffluff · 18-12-2008, 12:23 PM

Linds, its breaking my heart to hear you talk about giving up your torts. Hun, these things happen and it wasn't your fault!!!!
Please, please, dont blame yourself, you are such a lovely person and have just taken in that poor ebay tortie who needs you right now.
Its a very sad time for you, but these things happen in the wild, and it couldn't be helped!
Thinking of you

Pretty Penguin · 18-12-2008, 12:27 PM

Linds, this was purely an accident. Please, please don't blame yourself.

It is the same with whatever animals one keeps - it is utterly impossible to watch over them 24/7. There will always, always be accidents. It is a very sad fact, but also a very true one. Animals will, one way or another, break hearts but they also give a great deal of joy. The one is a trade-off for the other.

I can understand you wanting to give up and rehome your other tortoises, it is an instinctive reaction. Please, wait for the rawness of emotion to pass and then you will feel able to reconsider.

You are only young! If only there were more up and coming keepers like yourself, then many more tortoises would have a happier future.

As others have said, there is a world of difference between an accident through no fault of ones own, and being an unfit person to have the care and responsibility of a pet.

I'm so sorry that this has happened to you but please, grieve for your loss and then move on - if you give up, the tortoise world will have lost a very caring, giving keeper.

Anna.

Zen · 18-12-2008, 12:31 PM

Linds, a big hug coming your way. Please dont blame yourself, as everyone else has said accidents do happen and this isnt your fault.
Chin up honey xxxxx

sandy · 18-12-2008, 12:41 PM

Linda dont beat yourself up, I am sure Darren will tell you the same thing. Hatchling and the first few years, have the highest rate of death in small tortoises. This is not to do with how they were bred, or how they are kept. Its one of those things. I have had the same thing happen to me, but outside. At the beginning of the year I had two of last years hatchlings outside in their coldframe. They were ok in the morning eating etc. By the afternoon one had died. This was my first ever second generation tortoise. So I know how devistated you feel.
I can understand you leaving here until after Christmas, please keep reading even if you dont post.
You have to put this down to experience, most long term keepers have had the same happen to them at one time or another.

Hazel · 18-12-2008, 01:20 PM

Oh Linds, I am so sorry to hear what happened

Please don't blame yourself, it is certainly not your fault the tort died.

Will be thinking of you xxx

lindso3000 · 18-12-2008, 01:25 PM

Thanks everyone for your kind words
somehow im going to have to go to work and put a brave face on it all
feel absolutely awful
not sure what to do with the rest of my torts. Il be on here after christmas, cant bear even thinking about it all at the moment
thanks everyone
Lindsey

Beverley · 18-12-2008, 01:58 PM

I totally agree with everyone here, its not your fault at all, unfortunately sometimes these things happen and its horrible.
A while ago I wanted to give up tort keeping myself after a bad spell, but thankfully I did'nt, remember the rest of your tortoises need you just as much as they ever did and you are a good keeper so don't give up, please.

terrypin · 18-12-2008, 02:00 PM

hi im sorry to hear of you having to go through this so early in your tortoise keeping life .as has been said by others this sort of thing sadly can happen so please dont blame yourself .i for one would be more than happy to see my hatchlings going to loving homes like yours.whatever you do dont give up because of this unfortunate accident.
terry

18-12-2008, 11:23 AM	#11
Lou Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wigan - Greater Manchester Posts: 1,172	so sorry Linds... but like previous have said.. don't give up... its nothing you've done... xxx __________________ Louise... Horsfield: 1.0.2 Walter / Izzy / Tilly Redfoot : 1.3.0 Ruby / Scarlet / Merlot / Ginger Goldfish : 0:0:1 Splodge Bearded Dragon : 0:1:0 Zuki Springer Spaniel : 1:0:0 Bailey

18-12-2008, 12:27 PM	#14
Pretty Penguin Member Incubating Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: The Secret Garden Posts: 165	Linds, this was purely an accident. Please, please don't blame yourself. It is the same with whatever animals one keeps - it is utterly impossible to watch over them 24/7. There will always, always be accidents. It is a very sad fact, but also a very true one. Animals will, one way or another, break hearts but they also give a great deal of joy. The one is a trade-off for the other. I can understand you wanting to give up and rehome your other tortoises, it is an instinctive reaction. Please, wait for the rawness of emotion to pass and then you will feel able to reconsider. You are only young! If only there were more up and coming keepers like yourself, then many more tortoises would have a happier future. As others have said, there is a world of difference between an accident through no fault of ones own, and being an unfit person to have the care and responsibility of a pet. I'm so sorry that this has happened to you but please, grieve for your loss and then move on - if you give up, the tortoise world will have lost a very caring, giving keeper. Anna. __________________

18-12-2008, 12:31 PM	#15
Zen Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Banbury Oxfordshire Posts: 2,623	Linds, a big hug coming your way. Please dont blame yourself, as everyone else has said accidents do happen and this isnt your fault. Chin up honey xxxxx __________________ Rachael & Zen (THB) 'Show gratitude to every living thing'

18-12-2008, 12:41 PM	#16
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	Linda dont beat yourself up, I am sure Darren will tell you the same thing. Hatchling and the first few years, have the highest rate of death in small tortoises. This is not to do with how they were bred, or how they are kept. Its one of those things. I have had the same thing happen to me, but outside. At the beginning of the year I had two of last years hatchlings outside in their coldframe. They were ok in the morning eating etc. By the afternoon one had died. This was my first ever second generation tortoise. So I know how devistated you feel. I can understand you leaving here until after Christmas, please keep reading even if you dont post. You have to put this down to experience, most long term keepers have had the same happen to them at one time or another. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

18-12-2008, 01:20 PM	#17
Hazel Member Juvenile Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Manchester Posts: 853	Oh Linds, I am so sorry to hear what happened Please don't blame yourself, it is certainly not your fault the tort died. Will be thinking of you xxx __________________

18-12-2008, 11:54 AM	#12
swad1000 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,702	Hi Linds I'm probably one of the more outspoken of the group when it comes to animal care. There is a big big difference between an accident, and not being fit to look after animals. You can't watch them 24/7 I'm sure every keeper here has found there tortoises flipped upside down in there enclosures at some point, 99.9% of the time we turn them right side up and they are just fine, unfortunately this was one of those times it wasn't, but it truly wasn't your fault. It would be a shame for you to give up the rest of your tortoises, from what is obviously loving home. Try not to blame your self, I'm sure you will be lavishing even more love and attention of the rest of your tortoises.

18-12-2008, 12:23 PM	#13
alotoffluff Senior Member Adult Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: greenwich, london, previously born and brought up in Kent! Posts: 2,127	Linds, its breaking my heart to hear you talk about giving up your torts. Hun, these things happen and it wasn't your fault!!!! Please, please, dont blame yourself, you are such a lovely person and have just taken in that poor ebay tortie who needs you right now. Its a very sad time for you, but these things happen in the wild, and it couldn't be helped! Thinking of you

18-12-2008, 01:25 PM	#18
lindso3000 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cumbria Posts: 2,675	Thanks everyone for your kind words somehow im going to have to go to work and put a brave face on it all feel absolutely awful not sure what to do with the rest of my torts. Il be on here after christmas, cant bear even thinking about it all at the moment thanks everyone Lindsey

18-12-2008, 01:58 PM	#19
Beverley Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 3,493	I totally agree with everyone here, its not your fault at all, unfortunately sometimes these things happen and its horrible. A while ago I wanted to give up tort keeping myself after a bad spell, but thankfully I did'nt, remember the rest of your tortoises need you just as much as they ever did and you are a good keeper so don't give up, please. __________________

18-12-2008, 02:00 PM	#20
terrypin Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: jersey c.i. Posts: 2,928	hi im sorry to hear of you having to go through this so early in your tortoise keeping life .as has been said by others this sort of thing sadly can happen so please dont blame yourself .i for one would be more than happy to see my hatchlings going to loving homes like yours.whatever you do dont give up because of this unfortunate accident. terry __________________ these are my own opinions do with them what you will. _________________

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