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My servers down or screwed so the photos do not link for some reason. If you select the red X and go to properties you can cut and paste the address and the photo will come up.
Anyway, Thanks Laraine. Quote:
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12-11-2007, 11:50 AM | #22 | |
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The photos I post on the net including my photos used on other web sites, like McIntyres website on Leopards, are mine of my animals and set ups unless otherwise noted.
The photos used in all the magazine articles, books and websites are mostly of my animals and set ups. These have been circulated for years. I have no problem backing up the information I provide because I know I've got good looking and well cared for animals. I don't see why you have to defend what you are doing if you are so sure what you are doing is right. I don't defend how I maintain my animals. I do describe how I do maintain them as an example of acceptable methods and practices. I'll post more pictures this week. Quote:
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12-11-2007, 12:09 PM | #23 |
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Laraine beat me to it. I just feel so sad that Ed feels he has to prove himself...I hope to goodness that I never attack in this way.
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12-11-2007, 12:15 PM | #24 | |
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Thanks Helen.
I never felt I have to prove myself. I look at people who do throw up the number of years they have and the number of animals they have... as a sign of insecurity. I do find myself falling into this catagory sometimes. When I do catch myself I know I have nothing to feel insecure about so I try not to boast about my practices... notice I said try... I'm still only human contrary to what some may say on and off list. Quote:
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12-11-2007, 02:20 PM | #25 |
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I thought this forum was pro-TT and received most of it's practices from the TT website?
The following was taken from an article on TT, written by yours truly Andy Highfield: "Captive environment: Red-foot tortoises inhabit grassland savannah and drier forest habitats throughout South America. In only a few localities does it impinge upon true tropical rainforest habitats. In captivity, a moderately dry environment and temperature in the region of 21 C (night) to 27 C (day) will suit most specimens. Access to water should however be provided at all times." Ref: http://www.tortoisetrust.org/articles/kandb.htm Notice Ed's recommendations and then read the above. Before you start slinging, how about doing some digging first. P.S. Nice pics Ed! |
12-11-2007, 02:31 PM | #26 |
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i think this will be my last post in this topic as it's getting too heated, the forum is about discussion not just following one way or else a forum wud be pointless....i do not doubt that edward is very cleaver and has alot of valuable knowledge that can help out this any many other site. thats was not my point. i just don't like bullies and if i think someone is mocking someone else then i will tell them.....sorry i was brought up that way.
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Darren has been breeding red foots for over 10 years and has even studied them in their natural environment! We advise people to spray their red foots and keep their substrate damp to gain humdity. From tortoise trust: On the forest floor, the air is very still and the ambient humidity is almost always above 75%, often extending to 90%, and the temperature is relatively constant year-round at 80-85° F
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There is a HUGE diff b/t being in a moist environment on moist substrate (moist w/ WATER) and being on urine-soaked substrate! Obviously in the wild torts are on the move a lot and hence, not lying in their own waste! In captivity the enclosure has to be kept clean. It's the urine, not the water, that is the issue here, it seems to me.
I spray down my enclosure 1-2X a day. The area on the warm end dries out pretty quickly on the surface, but in the hide area it stays moist. Beasley spends most of her time in the hide area and her shell is lovely. |
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I know this is a bit of subject but if horses hooves are the same as shell then a lot of damage can be done to horses feet from standing in their own muck and urine, the hooves will rot and go very soft so again its the urine, ammonia which does the damage not the moisture content
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