I.D and origin please (more pics added please confirm)

Jason1 · 25-07-2008, 11:01 PM

Hi guys,

The wife and I have been pining for an adult for quite sometime but we wanted a rehomer and a hermanns. Well we managed one of the two. I picked this guy up today, I was expecting a TGI as this is what the previous owner said he was but pretty sure this guy is a TGG. Can someone confirm the subspecies and origin. He's 192mm long and weighs 1483g. He's a least 45 years old.

Thanks

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**egyptiandan64** · 25-07-2008, 11:09 PM

Looks like a Moroccan T.g.graeca to me Jason.

Danny

Jason1 · 25-07-2008, 11:11 PM

Cheers Dan,

Do these guys usually hibernate? I know he's been hibernated every year other than last winter as he had an ear abcess last year so the owner decided not to hibernate him.

Jason

janeL · 25-07-2008, 11:13 PM

Congratulations Jason he is stunning!

**egyptiandan64** · 25-07-2008, 11:20 PM

I personally wouldn't Jason

Danny

**Eire_Ade** · 25-07-2008, 11:22 PM

Hi Jason,

He is a stunner, you are very lucky.

I dont think they hibernate.

Ade

piglet · 26-07-2008, 09:15 AM

Jason Agree Tgg region I wouldnt give a deff answer but looks like Algerian type , its often said not to hibernate these guys but many are often handed in especially males whih have hibernated all there captive lives and done just fine , I would personally carry on how he was kept to be honest

D

sandy · 26-07-2008, 09:45 AM

I agree with Darren about the hibernation, you could cause more problems upsetting a normal
routine for him.

helen1 · 26-07-2008, 10:18 AM

So do I jason

, but you already know that!! Enjoy....

Jason1 · 26-07-2008, 10:29 PM

thanks all,

I've added some some pics as on the first two the flash fired and his colour isn't as it is, so please could people confirm the id as I have been given two different one's and would like to know what they are in case in the future I get him a friend. I dont know whether the head shots will help but I've included them anyway.

Thanks again just want to know for sure what this guy is, also id's said tgg are the moroccans and algerians both tgg or do they have a different subspecies name?

Jason

25-07-2008, 11:01 PM	#1
Jason1 Member Hatched Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 405	I.D and origin please (more pics added please confirm) Hi guys, The wife and I have been pining for an adult for quite sometime but we wanted a rehomer and a hermanns. Well we managed one of the two. I picked this guy up today, I was expecting a TGI as this is what the previous owner said he was but pretty sure this guy is a TGG. Can someone confirm the subspecies and origin. He's 192mm long and weighs 1483g. He's a least 45 years old. Thanks [/quote]

25-07-2008, 11:09 PM	#2
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Looks like a Moroccan T.g.graeca to me Jason. Danny __________________

25-07-2008, 11:13 PM	#4
janeL Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: northampton Posts: 1,435	Congratulations Jason he is stunning! __________________ www.urbantortoise.co.uk For Tortoise Food, Plants and Pre Alpin info & sales Hermanns THB 2:3:0 Algerian TGG 1.2.3 Ibera TGI 0.1.0[/CENTER]

25-07-2008, 11:20 PM	#5
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	I personally wouldn't Jason Danny __________________

25-07-2008, 11:22 PM	#6
Eire_Ade Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 8,422	Hi Jason, He is a stunner, you are very lucky. I dont think they hibernate. Ade __________________ Ade ----------------------------------------------- Y.O.B 1971 (40 years young! ) My Tortoises :- Dug (Testudo Graeca Ibera Terrestris (Syrian), Penny, JJ (JennyJack), Buttons and Gem (Testudo Graeca Ibera)

25-07-2008, 11:11 PM	#3
Jason1 Member Hatched Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 405	Cheers Dan, Do these guys usually hibernate? I know he's been hibernated every year other than last winter as he had an ear abcess last year so the owner decided not to hibernate him. Jason

26-07-2008, 09:15 AM	#7
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	Jason Agree Tgg region I wouldnt give a deff answer but looks like Algerian type , its often said not to hibernate these guys but many are often handed in especially males whih have hibernated all there captive lives and done just fine , I would personally carry on how he was kept to be honest D __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

26-07-2008, 09:45 AM	#8
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	I agree with Darren about the hibernation, you could cause more problems upsetting a normal routine for him. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

26-07-2008, 10:18 AM	#9
helen1 Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NORTH WEST Posts: 1,977	So do I jason , but you already know that!! Enjoy.... __________________ I CARE FOR TORTS

26-07-2008, 10:29 PM	#10
Jason1 Member Hatched Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Lancashire Posts: 405	thanks all, I've added some some pics as on the first two the flash fired and his colour isn't as it is, so please could people confirm the id as I have been given two different one's and would like to know what they are in case in the future I get him a friend. I dont know whether the head shots will help but I've included them anyway. Thanks again just want to know for sure what this guy is, also id's said tgg are the moroccans and algerians both tgg or do they have a different subspecies name? Jason

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