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Old 11-09-2007, 04:38 PM   #21
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I had all my torts ID'd a while back, so now even though they are all spurs I have seperated them......anyway...... I learnt a lot and looked and looked until I had it right in my head and I have to agree these two "appear" to be TGI and TGG. Only my opinion of course.
I think there is no need to get defensive and sarcastic-Andy could be wrong as can we all.

I couldn't agree with you more

Shame andy can't speak for himself, but we all make mistakes including dan, its only his opinion no need to be defensive or rude
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:41 PM   #22
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Were was I defensive or rude?

I only said that we all can make mistakes, Dan could be wrong, I definately could be wrong and Andy could be wrong!
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Old 11-09-2007, 04:42 PM   #23
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:09 PM   #24
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Everyone *could* be wrong! Can we really ever say for sure what species/sub-species a tortoise is without DNA testing?
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:16 PM   #25
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:20 PM   #26
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I am 100% sure Andy won't be troubled to have another look at them - both these tortoises lived with him until he personally handed them to Julia.

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I saw nowhere that anyone said they were a matched pair anyway - just that thesetorts have been together for some time, in which case why seperate them? Personally I think it is time this list saw a bit more general moderation and not just allowing posts that seem OK from one side and not another. JMHO of course but therre does seem to be a lack of consistency. Sorry for any typos but it's not easy to read this white on black
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:21 PM   #27
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If that is the case then we should all stop breeding until such time?(I dont breed but got eggs from a tort that was bred).
Surely the ID guides are pretty accurate, if not why have them?
Why not tell people that we do not know for sure?
Why insist on seperating subspecies if we dont know they are?
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If that is the case then we should all stop breeding until such time?(I dont breed but got eggs from a tort that was bred).
Surely the ID guides are pretty accurate, if not why have them?
Why not tell people that we do not know for sure?
Why insist on seperating subspecies if we dont know they are?
I was just asking a question with my previous post. I could of course be wrong! <g>
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Old 11-09-2007, 05:42 PM   #29
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Sorry, I thought you were serious.

So are the ID examples correct and for the greater part accurate?

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Old 11-09-2007, 05:46 PM   #30
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Oh I am more confused now?? quote " if these have been together for sometime why seperate them?" I thought mixing species/subspecies was a no no!

Why is everyone gettng hot under the collar on the ID of two torts
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