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Old 13-07-2009, 07:07 PM   #1
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My tortoise is recovering from a bout of R.N.S. and hasn't been eating. The vet has suggested feeding him baby food until he recovers.... the trouble is I can't get him to open his mouth. I don't want to force his mouth open - any ideas or suggestions?
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Old 13-07-2009, 08:19 PM   #2
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first, how big, age, weight, ect? how long has he gone without eating. Even a few weeks won't hurt him. Just keep him hydrated as much as possible. Most often after rns treatment it knocks the snot out of them and they will refuse to eat for awhile. But they will start again. Just keep trying. Baby food??? NO. Just keep giving grasses with weeds and he/she will eat. Also keep track of his weight over this time. If you see a dramatic weight loss that's when to start worrying.
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Old 13-07-2009, 08:28 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply. My specialist vet (is official vet for Drayton Manor and Twycross Zoo) Suggested baby food, but a meatless one. I've tried and I can't keep his mouth open long enough to get the food in.

He's 7 years old, 3.5 pounds.

Perhaps you can answer this while I've got your attention: Will he always be prone to RNS now? I warm him up thoroughly before he goes out on sunny, warm days.
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Old 13-07-2009, 08:44 PM   #4
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You could try some reptiboost in a bath or nutribac, I have used the Reptiboost in the past, and have received some of the nutribac today to use with one of the stars that is not eating properly after antibiotics.
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Old 13-07-2009, 10:38 PM   #5
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You need to have your vet show you how to tube feed him or if the animal is that important... have an esophageal tube put in.

The food to feed either way is T-Rex tortoise diet, Pretty pets or Mazuri. Soak the stuff so that it is a mush and feed it through the tube.

You need to find the cause of the RNS. Once treated well it shouldn't reoccur.

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Thanks for the reply. My specialist vet (is official vet for Drayton Manor and Twycross Zoo) Suggested baby food, but a meatless one. I've tried and I can't keep his mouth open long enough to get the food in.

He's 7 years old, 3.5 pounds.

Perhaps you can answer this while I've got your attention: Will he always be prone to RNS now? I warm him up thoroughly before he goes out on sunny, warm days.
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Old 13-07-2009, 10:42 PM   #6
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I think Leopards are prone to RNS - sometimes it can be enviromental or due to stress. I can always coax mine to eat with cucumber ( very wet) and then hide weeds underneath it. One of my Leopards is poorly at the moment and did not eat for 3 days - she is on Marbacyl. She did eat today though.

If the right A/B is found to treat the initail infection there is no real reason why it should be an on going problem.
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Old 13-07-2009, 10:48 PM   #7
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Leopards are not normally prone to RNS. If you are lucky enough to get healthy stock it is never a problem. It can be a problem with chronic cases but that is not the norm.

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If the right A/B is found to treat the initail infection there is no real reason why it should be an on going problem.
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I guess I have been unlucky then Ed - I rehomed one that unknown to us had an untreated pneumonia which has caused scarring/nodules on the lungs and my 4th rehomer has also had a bout of RN about a month ago.

I have been told by a couple of vets and other keepers that Leopards are more prone than other tortoises - maybe it just one of those unfounded facts that gets banded around.

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Some are more prone but it's still not the norm. Rehomers are usually the bottom of the barrel.

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I have been told by a couple of vets and other keepers that Leopards are more prone than other tortoises - maybe it just one of those unreasearched facts that gets banded around.
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Some are more prone but it's still not the norm. Rehomers are usually the bottom of the barrel.
What does that mean Ed - bottom of the barrel?
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