ivory/albino??

3lli3 xx · 04-01-2009, 02:30 PM

I FOUND THIS ON GOOGLE. you are led to beleive it is an albino, but i have heard of an ivory scalata, and think it might be one. if so does anyone know where you can get one??

anna m · 04-01-2009, 02:35 PM

Beautiful. Isn't it?

alicia · 04-01-2009, 02:38 PM

i think it is an albino.
it has no menalin pigment but i think some people may call them ivory.

alice.

CJ · 04-01-2009, 02:45 PM

Think this is an albino. It has pink eyes which is generally characteristic
of an albino whether animal, reptile,human etc.

**egyptiandan64** · 04-01-2009, 02:56 PM

Technically no reptile is albino.

They are amelanistic, which means absence of the dark pigment melanin. There are 3 colours that make up reptiles, red, yellow and black or blue (in snakes there is a forth irridescent pigment). No reptile yet has been missing all 3 pigments, the closest are "snow" animals which are missing 2 of the 3 pigments.

Yes this is an amelanistic sulcata. The "ivory" sulcatas have dark eyes and would be considered leucistic.

Danny

Alex · 04-01-2009, 04:52 PM

Thats very interesting dan, i didn't know that.

I have seen other species amelanistic/leucistic, including chacos and marginated.

alotoffluff · 04-01-2009, 05:12 PM

very pretty though isnt it!!!

Ozric Jonathan · 04-01-2009, 05:44 PM

I wonder if such tortoises might have health problems or difficulties. Its a personal thing but I don't find the colourless one any more appealing than those in the background.

fantapants · 04-01-2009, 07:34 PM

i would imagine there may be problems with the animal being underneath a mercury vapour lamp or a metal halide uvb lamp. The whole reason we have melanin is to protect our skin from being burnt by UVB....thats why fair people burn so easily. I know certain amelanisitc/leucistic/translucent animals have to have reduced UVb and extra D3 supplementation. And i also know that their is a breeder of albino redfoots in/near london. i am pretty sure if you did a search on a certain other reptile forum that you would find it. The benefit of a redfoot carrying this trait is that they dont have such a high demand for UVB, so stand less chance of developing any dodgy side effects. plus, they look like strawberries and cream.

EJ · 04-01-2009, 08:58 PM

Isn't that the definition of Albino... lacking melanin?

Also check out Raparian Farms...

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Originally Posted by egyptiandan64

Technically no reptile is albino.

They are amelanistic, which means absence of the dark pigment melanin. There are 3 colours that make up reptiles, red, yellow and black or blue (in snakes there is a forth irridescent pigment). No reptile yet has been missing all 3 pigments, the closest are "snow" animals which are missing 2 of the 3 pigments.

Yes this is an amelanistic sulcata. The "ivory" sulcatas have dark eyes and would be considered leucistic.

Danny

04-01-2009, 02:30 PM	#1
3lli3 xx Member Egg Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: London, Essex Posts: 68	ivory/albino?? I FOUND THIS ON GOOGLE. you are led to beleive it is an albino, but i have heard of an ivory scalata, and think it might be one. if so does anyone know where you can get one?? __________________

04-01-2009, 02:38 PM	#3
alicia Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: waterlooville, Hampshire Posts: 2,328	i think it is an albino. it has no menalin pigment but i think some people may call them ivory. alice. __________________ 0.0.2 graeca ibera

04-01-2009, 02:56 PM	#5
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Technically no reptile is albino. They are amelanistic, which means absence of the dark pigment melanin. There are 3 colours that make up reptiles, red, yellow and black or blue (in snakes there is a forth irridescent pigment). No reptile yet has been missing all 3 pigments, the closest are "snow" animals which are missing 2 of the 3 pigments. Yes this is an amelanistic sulcata. The "ivory" sulcatas have dark eyes and would be considered leucistic. Danny __________________

04-01-2009, 04:52 PM	#6
Alex Member Juvenile Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 915	Thats very interesting dan, i didn't know that. I have seen other species amelanistic/leucistic, including chacos and marginated. __________________ Alex

04-01-2009, 05:44 PM	#8
Ozric Jonathan Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 4,226	I wonder if such tortoises might have health problems or difficulties. Its a personal thing but I don't find the colourless one any more appealing than those in the background. __________________ Testudo Hermanni Hermanni (Corse) tortoises

04-01-2009, 02:35 PM	#2
anna m Senior Member Adult Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 4,091	Beautiful. Isn't it?

04-01-2009, 02:45 PM	#4
CJ Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Herts Posts: 1,280	Think this is an albino. It has pink eyes which is generally characteristic of an albino whether animal, reptile,human etc.

04-01-2009, 05:12 PM	#7
alotoffluff Senior Member Adult Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: greenwich, london, previously born and brought up in Kent! Posts: 2,127	very pretty though isnt it!!!

04-01-2009, 07:34 PM	#9
fantapants Member Hatchling Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 542	i would imagine there may be problems with the animal being underneath a mercury vapour lamp or a metal halide uvb lamp. The whole reason we have melanin is to protect our skin from being burnt by UVB....thats why fair people burn so easily. I know certain amelanisitc/leucistic/translucent animals have to have reduced UVb and extra D3 supplementation. And i also know that their is a breeder of albino redfoots in/near london. i am pretty sure if you did a search on a certain other reptile forum that you would find it. The benefit of a redfoot carrying this trait is that they dont have such a high demand for UVB, so stand less chance of developing any dodgy side effects. plus, they look like strawberries and cream.

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