hibernation question

[EJ]

It is a sincere and very logical question.

Hopefully any tortoise keeper reading this crap puts as much validaty in my posts as they do in any others and can decide for themselves for a course of action.

Originally Posted by Vicky12

Oh come on Ed, if you werent going to push that fact that you dont think torts need to be hibernated why ask the question as to why they do it.

[EJ]

I do this with Redfoots, Sulcatas, Leopards, Aldabras and Radiateds... yea a different line of thought but the tortoises have taught me. I'm not against hibernation. I'm against those who say it is a necessity... it is not.

Thanks for seeming to understand.

Originally Posted by caledonia

If I were to hibernate my torts (and who knows I may do this eventually some day) I would be doing it because it suited me to do so, not because that's what happens in nature. By that I mean that it may get to the stage where they are too big for me to keep indoors for a long time in winter due to space. I know from reading posts that many other people do it for that reason too but are reluctant to admit to those reasons. Some people do admit that it suits them to do so though. I don't see anything wrong with admitting to that, better that than pretending they are doing it because it's natural .. then putting them in a fridge

[yuna1971]

I overwinter too but, just a question Ed but aren't Leopards a species that aren't meant to hibernate? Curiousity here...thats all.

[EJ]

Depends on what part of the range they come from.

Aldabras definately don't hibernate in the wild.

Redfoots... do... depending on the range.

That's the point... they adapt to the conditions presented to them.

Originally Posted by yuna1971

I overwinter too but, just a question Ed but aren't Leopards a species that aren't meant to hibernate? Curiousity here...thats all.

[yuna1971]

Yes... Thank you for explaining.

[EJ]

My pleasure.

Originally Posted by yuna1971

Yes... Thank you for explaining.

[Alan1]

Regarding adapting to conditions to survive .. those 3000 birds that died mysteriously a couple of weeks ago, the red winged blackbirds, I was reading that the ones living in the northern part of the USA migrate to the southern states in October and return in spring but the ones that live in the southern states stay there all year round yet they are all the same species.

Given that those northern birds can't hibernate then their only option is to fly south to survive. Tortoises cannot fly south for winter so they do what they do to survive, hibernate. However, if they could fly, would they head south for winter? According to that Darwin guy birds are the closest living relatives of tortoises.

One thing I can't figure out is why those blackbirds fly back north again for summer when they could just stay south all the year round along with those ones that do live there all year, same species remember

[Kirkie]

Common Poorwill. A bird that hibernates (and its not flightless).

[NATURALIS]

Originally Posted by Vicky12

Okay this is the last thing Im going to say on this thread.

The original question has been answered for the OP so lets just leave it there shall we or this will be another thread that has been taken completely off topic again.

i agree with you !

[Alan1]

if the question has been answered then why does it matter so much if the thread goes off topic after that?

Should every thread be closed as soon as the OP's question has been answered?

I wouldn't say it was that far off topic, I was still commenting on hibernation, there was still a link. If you started a new thread every time there would be millions of threads with 2 posts in them