Leopards.......

izzy · 25-01-2007, 04:45 PM

Hi,

I was having a chat today with someone who has started keeping leopards. She said that a male leopard will only ever grow as large as a female ibera. This didnt sound right to me but im not a leopard keeper so don't know. Im a bit worried shes keeping a few leopards and expecting them to grow less than they actually will. Can anybody lend me their knowledge on this one?

ta in advance.

izzy

25-01-2007, 05:43 PM

Hi

I certainly would not class myself as a Leopard expert however I have done a serious amount of research.....

Leo's are the 4th largest tortoise in the world. The male leopards are sometimes larger than females - weighing up to and including 80-100llbs. I think the average weight of a fully grown Leopard is around the 50-80lbs.

I have seen pictures of an owner having to put his Leopard in a wheelbarrow to move it...

I think your friend will have a shock in store - is this another example of someone not doing their homework before purchasing a cute little tort? I hope not - I hope your friend will be able to accomodate her tort.

How old are the Leopards now... how many does she have?

izzy · 25-01-2007, 06:08 PM

Hi,

I think that when she was choosing the type of tort she wanted she got drawn in by the beauty of the leopards, and she insists that they will not grow any larger than my ibera. She currently has four babies, i would say they hatched june or august last year. They are currently in a tort table that is definately large enough at the moment but a couple of years down the line?? I cant fault her husbandry or her treatment of them, just the fact she has no idea about their size.

She is definately in for a shock i think!

Izzy

izzy · 25-01-2007, 06:13 PM

Actually to add to that... does anyone have a pic of a very young leopard? For example when they first got their leopard, or one that has just hatched?

Hers look different to pictures i have seen on this site and others, it makes me wonder about their origin - even though she claims they came from a genuine breeder.

Izzy

nina · 25-01-2007, 06:16 PM

Hi Izzy,

Check out the section on this site called Identification/Sexing. There's a thread on leopards with lots of pictures. I think this is the link to it:
http://forums.shelledwarriors.co.uk/...pic.php?t=3052

25-01-2007, 07:05 PM

Hi

This is a picture of one of my hatchlings - approx 3 months old

**egyptiandan64** · 25-01-2007, 07:52 PM

Hi Izzy,
In Stigmochelys pardalis babcocki the females get bigger then the males but not by much. They average 30 to 45cm
S. p. pardalis the males get bigger then the females. They average 35 to 60cm
There is a Northern population, most likely will be a new subspecies, that gets just as big as S. p. pardalis.
The record for S.p.pardalis is 78cm
The record for the northern population is 72cm
The record weight is 56kg

Dan

niamherrity · 25-01-2007, 08:20 PM

Sorry for changing the subject what size will a female ibera be when fully grow i was told about 6" is that right?

x

Henry-flash · 25-01-2007, 08:23 PM

Slightly larger than 6 inches more like 8 inches or so.

niamherrity · 25-01-2007, 08:33 PM

Ok great!I like the fact that they not to big just nice thanks for the speedy reply

x

25-01-2007, 04:45 PM	#1
izzy Junior Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 24	Leopards....... Hi, I was having a chat today with someone who has started keeping leopards. She said that a male leopard will only ever grow as large as a female ibera. This didnt sound right to me but im not a leopard keeper so don't know. Im a bit worried shes keeping a few leopards and expecting them to grow less than they actually will. Can anybody lend me their knowledge on this one? ta in advance. izzy

25-01-2007, 06:16 PM	#5
nina Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Oxford Posts: 2,337	Hi Izzy, Check out the section on this site called Identification/Sexing. There's a thread on leopards with lots of pictures. I think this is the link to it: http://forums.shelledwarriors.co.uk/...pic.php?t=3052 __________________ http://www.thetortoisetable.org.uk l

25-01-2007, 07:52 PM	#7
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Hi Izzy, In Stigmochelys pardalis babcocki the females get bigger then the males but not by much. They average 30 to 45cm S. p. pardalis the males get bigger then the females. They average 35 to 60cm There is a Northern population, most likely will be a new subspecies, that gets just as big as S. p. pardalis. The record for S.p.pardalis is 78cm The record for the northern population is 72cm The record weight is 56kg Dan __________________

25-01-2007, 08:23 PM	#9
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	Slightly larger than 6 inches more like 8 inches or so. __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

25-01-2007, 05:43 PM	#2
Glitter Guest Posts: n/a	Hi I certainly would not class myself as a Leopard expert however I have done a serious amount of research..... Leo's are the 4th largest tortoise in the world. The male leopards are sometimes larger than females - weighing up to and including 80-100llbs. I think the average weight of a fully grown Leopard is around the 50-80lbs. I have seen pictures of an owner having to put his Leopard in a wheelbarrow to move it... I think your friend will have a shock in store - is this another example of someone not doing their homework before purchasing a cute little tort? I hope not - I hope your friend will be able to accomodate her tort. How old are the Leopards now... how many does she have?

25-01-2007, 06:08 PM	#3
izzy Junior Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 24	Hi, I think that when she was choosing the type of tort she wanted she got drawn in by the beauty of the leopards, and she insists that they will not grow any larger than my ibera. She currently has four babies, i would say they hatched june or august last year. They are currently in a tort table that is definately large enough at the moment but a couple of years down the line?? I cant fault her husbandry or her treatment of them, just the fact she has no idea about their size. She is definately in for a shock i think! Izzy

25-01-2007, 06:13 PM	#4
izzy Junior Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 24	Actually to add to that... does anyone have a pic of a very young leopard? For example when they first got their leopard, or one that has just hatched? Hers look different to pictures i have seen on this site and others, it makes me wonder about their origin - even though she claims they came from a genuine breeder. Izzy

25-01-2007, 07:05 PM	#6
Glitter Guest Posts: n/a	Hi This is a picture of one of my hatchlings - approx 3 months old

25-01-2007, 08:20 PM	#8
niamherrity Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: klidare/ireland Posts: 2,827	Sorry for changing the subject what size will a female ibera be when fully grow i was told about 6" is that right? x

25-01-2007, 08:33 PM	#10
niamherrity Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: klidare/ireland Posts: 2,827	Ok great!I like the fact that they not to big just nice thanks for the speedy reply x

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