any ideas Dan ??

NATURALIS · 04-03-2012, 09:41 PM

Box girl · 04-03-2012, 10:13 PM

Could be a hybrid not a true ornata I don't think as the plastron pattering is a little vague not patterned enough for Bauri or Eastern. My Paul will know I'll ask him. Geomyda would also know Have you bought him?
Difficult to see exactly but looks like his back claws have been cut which means he will be no good for mating.

**egyptiandan64** · 04-03-2012, 11:01 PM

It's an Ornate male, Terrapene ornata ornata. I don't see any crossing or hybridizing with anything else. He shouldn't have any trouble getting the job done mating wise.

Danny

NATURALIS · 04-03-2012, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Box girl

Could be a hybrid not a true ornata I don't think as the plastron pattering is a little vague not patterned enough for Bauri or Eastern. My Paul will know I'll ask him. Geomyda would also know Have you bought him?
Difficult to see exactly but looks like his back claws have been cut which means he will be no good for mating.

he breeds very well , he has produced some really nice ornate youngster's

ClareandCo · 05-03-2012, 06:41 AM

The cut toe nail issue with these was discussed at the Chelonia Conference this weekend, and it was said there could well be serious problems for the male during/after the actual "event".

NATURALIS · 05-03-2012, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ClareandCo

The cut toe nail issue with these was discussed at the Chelonia Conference this weekend, and it was said there could well be serious problems for the male during/after the actual "event".

they haven't been cut it's just the angle the picture was taken

ClareandCo · 05-03-2012, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by NATURALIS

they haven't been cut it's just the angle the picture was taken

Fair enough. However, we did hear some very interesting talks about them over the weekend including the issue of cut back nails!

NATURALIS · 05-03-2012, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ClareandCo

Fair enough. However, we did hear some very interesting talks about them over the weekend including the issue of cut back nails!

just out of interest how would a cut claw effect breeding anyway , after all they do grow back

jeff · 05-03-2012, 08:13 AM

I was thinking the same,It would be interesting to hear what they have to say.

ClareandCo · 05-03-2012, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by stells

I find it funny how people hear something one weekend... and are taking it as gospel a week later and advising people on it like they have known it all their life...

I'm glad you find what I post funny.

I have merely mentioned one of the topics that came up for discussion over the weekend. I am not dispensing advice.

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Box girl Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Glos Posts: 1,326	Could be a hybrid not a true ornata I don't think as the plastron pattering is a little vague not patterned enough for Bauri or Eastern. My Paul will know I'll ask him. Geomyda would also know Have you bought him? Difficult to see exactly but looks like his back claws have been cut which means he will be no good for mating. __________________ www.ukchelonia.info Money raised to Allwetter Zoo Muenster e6000 sent so far. Have bred-red foots, yellow foots, eastern box, 3 toed box, ornate box, gulf coast box, common musk, elongated tortoise, red eared terrapin, cuora flavomarginata, cuora amboinensis, hermanns tortoise, horsfield tortoise, rhinoclemys.p. manni, european pond turtle, reeves and spurs

04-03-2012, 11:01 PM	#3
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	It's an Ornate male, Terrapene ornata ornata. I don't see any crossing or hybridizing with anything else. He shouldn't have any trouble getting the job done mating wise. Danny __________________

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jeff Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,180	I was thinking the same,It would be interesting to hear what they have to say. __________________

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ClareandCo Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,350	The cut toe nail issue with these was discussed at the Chelonia Conference this weekend, and it was said there could well be serious problems for the male during/after the actual "event".

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