2 x 4 year old THH (boy & girl ), 3ft table incuded - Page 2

fungimala · 10-11-2010, 09:08 PM

I would love to re-home them, how much money do you want?

goldblend · 10-11-2010, 09:12 PM

yes ziggy paperwork charge included

ziggy's owner · 10-11-2010, 09:21 PM

Thanks for answering my questions will have a think

lacard · 10-11-2010, 10:00 PM

Hello it seems to me that you have 2 males. Also, they don't look like Testudo hermanni hermanni (their femoral scute seam is smaller than their pectoral one) but maybe I am wrong? Can you please confirm their sex and subspecies? thank you!

ziggy's owner · 10-11-2010, 10:07 PM

They look t h herc to me, but danny might know

Ozric Jonathan · 10-11-2010, 11:01 PM

Hi, I think it would be worth asking Danny or HermanniChris to ID these lovely tortoises as they might not be Hermanni Hermanni. Some of the features we look for are unclear or not at all typical of that subspecies. I am not that good at picking the subspecies especially when they are not French but I think there is a bit of doubt. I would have expected the plastron to have continuous black bands and the light colour on the carapace is much paler than I would expect. There are a few other features that are not typical as well.

But they do look like super tortoises and for most people the exact subspecies isn't always an issue unless they want to breed.

goldblend · 10-11-2010, 11:13 PM

well i am going by their certificates i recieved with them which says 16. scientific name of species Testudo Hermanni then underneath says common name Hermanns so i thought thats what THH stood for ..... maybe not then , and im confused as how 2 males as oz is always out like that and axles is always tucked away under , where can i see pictures of a male and female please ? thanks for help

ziggy's owner · 10-11-2010, 11:16 PM

The name of the cert just means hermanns, there are 3 sub species of hermanns and the certs don't state which sub just the species

Ozric Jonathan · 10-11-2010, 11:23 PM

Hi, I agree with Ziggy about your certs. They always say Testudo Hermanni for any hermann tortoise.

Sorry I'm no good at sexing them but there are loads of phoso on here of tortoises that have been sexed. You might want to search under the ID/sexing board.

**egyptiandan64** · 10-11-2010, 11:39 PM

Oz is definately a male and a Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis. Axle does look like a female and a T.h.boettgeri, but would need to see a picture of how long the tail is.

Danny

10-11-2010, 09:12 PM	#12
goldblend Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maidstone , Kent Posts: 84	paperwork yes ziggy paperwork charge included __________________ Michelle aka Goldblend Adopted 2 Hermanns from a bad home, they much happier nowadays - August 2008 Axle (male) & Ozzie (Fem) TBH Syrian Hammies Summer & Lucky Mother to Willz (16) & Dan (11) Wife to Hubby George Part-time bakery worker, as well as cook, cleaner etc etc and exhausted ........

10-11-2010, 09:21 PM	#13
ziggy's owner Senior Member Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: west midlands Posts: 4,152	Thanks for answering my questions will have a think __________________ 2.0.0 spur thighs 2.3.0 hermanns 2.1.1 marginated 0.0.4 leopard 2.8.0 guinea pigs 1.2.0 Springers 1.0.0 hamster 0.0.1 Blue Tongue skink 2.2.0 Beardies And tropical fish Also have baby marginated tortoises for sale

10-11-2010, 10:07 PM	#15
ziggy's owner Senior Member Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: west midlands Posts: 4,152	They look t h herc to me, but danny might know __________________ 2.0.0 spur thighs 2.3.0 hermanns 2.1.1 marginated 0.0.4 leopard 2.8.0 guinea pigs 1.2.0 Springers 1.0.0 hamster 0.0.1 Blue Tongue skink 2.2.0 Beardies And tropical fish Also have baby marginated tortoises for sale

10-11-2010, 11:01 PM	#16
Ozric Jonathan Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 4,226	Hi, I think it would be worth asking Danny or HermanniChris to ID these lovely tortoises as they might not be Hermanni Hermanni. Some of the features we look for are unclear or not at all typical of that subspecies. I am not that good at picking the subspecies especially when they are not French but I think there is a bit of doubt. I would have expected the plastron to have continuous black bands and the light colour on the carapace is much paler than I would expect. There are a few other features that are not typical as well. But they do look like super tortoises and for most people the exact subspecies isn't always an issue unless they want to breed. __________________ Testudo Hermanni Hermanni (Corse) tortoises

10-11-2010, 11:13 PM	#17
goldblend Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Maidstone , Kent Posts: 84	breed and sex well i am going by their certificates i recieved with them which says 16. scientific name of species Testudo Hermanni then underneath says common name Hermanns so i thought thats what THH stood for ..... maybe not then , and im confused as how 2 males as oz is always out like that and axles is always tucked away under , where can i see pictures of a male and female please ? thanks for help __________________ Michelle aka Goldblend Adopted 2 Hermanns from a bad home, they much happier nowadays - August 2008 Axle (male) & Ozzie (Fem) TBH Syrian Hammies Summer & Lucky Mother to Willz (16) & Dan (11) Wife to Hubby George Part-time bakery worker, as well as cook, cleaner etc etc and exhausted ........

10-11-2010, 09:08 PM	#11
fungimala Junior Member Egg Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 21	I would love to re-home them, how much money do you want?

10-11-2010, 10:00 PM	#14
lacard Member Egg Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 84	Hello it seems to me that you have 2 males. Also, they don't look like Testudo hermanni hermanni (their femoral scute seam is smaller than their pectoral one) but maybe I am wrong? Can you please confirm their sex and subspecies? thank you!

10-11-2010, 11:16 PM	#18
ziggy's owner Senior Member Adult Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: west midlands Posts: 4,152	The name of the cert just means hermanns, there are 3 sub species of hermanns and the certs don't state which sub just the species __________________ 2.0.0 spur thighs 2.3.0 hermanns 2.1.1 marginated 0.0.4 leopard 2.8.0 guinea pigs 1.2.0 Springers 1.0.0 hamster 0.0.1 Blue Tongue skink 2.2.0 Beardies And tropical fish Also have baby marginated tortoises for sale

10-11-2010, 11:23 PM	#19
Ozric Jonathan Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: West of Scotland Posts: 4,226	Hi, I agree with Ziggy about your certs. They always say Testudo Hermanni for any hermann tortoise. Sorry I'm no good at sexing them but there are loads of phoso on here of tortoises that have been sexed. You might want to search under the ID/sexing board. __________________ Testudo Hermanni Hermanni (Corse) tortoises

10-11-2010, 11:39 PM	#20
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Oz is definately a male and a Testudo hermanni hercegovinensis. Axle does look like a female and a T.h.boettgeri, but would need to see a picture of how long the tail is. Danny __________________ Last edited by egyptiandan64; 10-11-2010 at 11:42 PM.

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