I.D Help For Badly Deformed Tort

03-10-2006, 09:50 PM

I was contacted about a Med tort called Delilah needed I.D'ing
I say Hermanni B, but not sure on sex- looks female, but then again,
she is quite badly deformed so i wouldn't know...
can anyone help?

**egyptiandan64** · 03-10-2006, 10:01 PM

Josh It's not a hermanns tortoise. It's got ibera greek in it, but I'm having trouble figuring out what else. Might be hermanns or North African graeca. Does it have thigh spurs? or a nail at the end of the tail? A split supracaudal scute? It looks like a male to me also

Dan

03-10-2006, 10:15 PM

Its not mine, but i have some photos of her-
Looking at her now, i wouldn't say hermanns because of the patterns around her outside scutes (names on the tip of my tounge.....)
She doesn't appear to have spurs as such, but i am not very good at identifying species to be honest...

**egyptiandan64** · 03-10-2006, 10:20 PM

Well from the blurry picture

I can see thigh spurs and no nail at the end of the tail. The supracaudal isn't split. It's a greek. It might be pure graeca. Hard to tell with out better pictures.

Dan

03-10-2006, 10:25 PM

Thanks Dan, i'll get back to the owners
I noticed the lack of tail nail, but thought this may be due to deformity.
Josh

piglet · 03-10-2006, 11:19 PM

Tunisian i'm certain very deformed poor thing who's is it Josh

Darren

terrypin · 03-10-2006, 11:57 PM

hi have to say ibera i have its double not sure how old but i got given him this summer and up until i got him he has spent his life indoors mine is a male and this looks like a female but you cant be sure it may be an immature male.
terry http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...pin/New034.jpg

Becks · 04-10-2006, 08:33 AM

yes i also think tunisian but very bumpy poor tort ...
also female
luv becks xxxxxxxxxxxxx

04-10-2006, 09:51 AM

I actually think it looks like a Horsefield. Obviously I don't know half what you lot know though.

piglet · 04-10-2006, 10:45 AM

Terry yours does look like an Ibera from the single shot and not disimilar from Josh's animal.

Here are two of the Tunisians i have had handed in x holiday suvieneris they are almost identical in markings colour etc.

before anyone goes reporting me to defra ,RSPCA,or the local council i have a licence to hold these animals so don't bother wasting peoples times .
Darren

03-10-2006, 09:50 PM	#1
tortoise_dude Guest Posts: n/a	I.D Help For Badly Deformed Tort I was contacted about a Med tort called Delilah needed I.D'ing I say Hermanni B, but not sure on sex- looks female, but then again, she is quite badly deformed so i wouldn't know... can anyone help?

03-10-2006, 10:01 PM	#2
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Josh It's not a hermanns tortoise. It's got ibera greek in it, but I'm having trouble figuring out what else. Might be hermanns or North African graeca. Does it have thigh spurs? or a nail at the end of the tail? A split supracaudal scute? It looks like a male to me also Dan __________________

03-10-2006, 10:20 PM	#4
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Well from the blurry picture I can see thigh spurs and no nail at the end of the tail. The supracaudal isn't split. It's a greek. It might be pure graeca. Hard to tell with out better pictures. Dan __________________

03-10-2006, 11:19 PM	#6
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	Tunisian i'm certain very deformed poor thing who's is it Josh Darren __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

03-10-2006, 11:57 PM	#7
terrypin Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: jersey c.i. Posts: 2,928	hi have to say ibera i have its double not sure how old but i got given him this summer and up until i got him he has spent his life indoors mine is a male and this looks like a female but you cant be sure it may be an immature male. terry http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...pin/New034.jpg __________________ these are my own opinions do with them what you will. _________________

03-10-2006, 10:15 PM	#3
tortoise_dude Guest Posts: n/a	Its not mine, but i have some photos of her- Looking at her now, i wouldn't say hermanns because of the patterns around her outside scutes (names on the tip of my tounge.....) She doesn't appear to have spurs as such, but i am not very good at identifying species to be honest...

03-10-2006, 10:25 PM	#5
tortoise_dude Guest Posts: n/a	Thanks Dan, i'll get back to the owners I noticed the lack of tail nail, but thought this may be due to deformity. Josh

04-10-2006, 08:33 AM	#8
Becks Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somerset UK Posts: 4,035	yes i also think tunisian but very bumpy poor tort ... also female luv becks xxxxxxxxxxxxx __________________ horsfields ,redfoots ,southern and northan morrocans, map turtle . http://www.redfoottortoiseplace.piczo.com

04-10-2006, 09:51 AM	#9
Wellersbird Guest Posts: n/a	I actually think it looks like a Horsefield. Obviously I don't know half what you lot know though.

04-10-2006, 10:45 AM	#10
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	Terry yours does look like an Ibera from the single shot and not disimilar from Josh's animal. Here are two of the Tunisians i have had handed in x holiday suvieneris they are almost identical in markings colour etc. before anyone goes reporting me to defra ,RSPCA,or the local council i have a licence to hold these animals so don't bother wasting peoples times . Darren __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

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