Species please - Page 2

Lyn · 25-01-2007, 09:11 PM

I see lots of these for sale and I also see people advertising for tortoises stating that they don't care what kind it is

I worry that there will be a lot left in rescues in the future.
How did your friend take the news?

vivp · 25-01-2007, 09:20 PM

how big do they get then.

Becks · 25-01-2007, 09:31 PM

Adult specimens are usually 18 inches in shell length, and 70 to 100 pounds in weight, with 24 to 30 inch, 150 pound specimens not unknown. They grow from hatchling size (2-3 inches) very quickly, reaching 6-10 inches within the first few years of their lives. An adult sulcata will need a great deal of space. Several web sites list the record size between 230 lb and 240 lb. They are the 3rd largest tortoise in the world .
This is info i have found on them

Luv Becks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

izzy · 25-01-2007, 11:47 PM

Well i phoned the girl who owns these animals tonight and told her that they are not leopards. She argued for a while and then i think it sunk in. Primarily she said "it doesnt matter what they are" but then i explained about the size they will grow to. I thought she was going to cry!! She says she is going to call the man who sold them to her tomorrow and ask why he sold them as leopards.

She asked me if i would take two from her but at the moment I would seriously fail "the sulcata test" so i said no. She does have a field at the back of her large house that she uses for goats at the moment (and she does have money), we talked about the fact that this could be used in the future. She now needs to do a lot of reading about this species and talk it through with her husband.

Unfortunately this is an example of someone who could give a very loving home to a smaller species, but probably wont be able to cope with sullies in the future. I hope she proves me wrong.

Izzy

**Eire_Ade** · 26-01-2007, 12:52 AM

Hi Izzy, she has probably got attached to them which makes matters worse too, but it might be worth contacting trading standards as she has consumer rights, she was sold leopard tortoises which she was told would not grow very big, which we all know is wrong, then to top it all off they are sulcutas which are not leaoprds at all and grow even bigger than leos.

Ade

yam yam · 26-01-2007, 10:18 PM

oh dear why do people sell animals with out telling you what they really are so sad on the buyers part if they cant house them when fully grow sham on those people

Tamie Milne · 28-01-2007, 01:00 PM

What pet shop did she get these torts from?
Tamie

25-01-2007, 09:31 PM	#13
Becks Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somerset UK Posts: 4,035	Adult specimens are usually 18 inches in shell length, and 70 to 100 pounds in weight, with 24 to 30 inch, 150 pound specimens not unknown. They grow from hatchling size (2-3 inches) very quickly, reaching 6-10 inches within the first few years of their lives. An adult sulcata will need a great deal of space. Several web sites list the record size between 230 lb and 240 lb. They are the 3rd largest tortoise in the world . This is info i have found on them Luv Becks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx __________________ horsfields ,redfoots ,southern and northan morrocans, map turtle . http://www.redfoottortoiseplace.piczo.com

26-01-2007, 12:52 AM	#15
Eire_Ade Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 8,422	Hi Izzy, she has probably got attached to them which makes matters worse too, but it might be worth contacting trading standards as she has consumer rights, she was sold leopard tortoises which she was told would not grow very big, which we all know is wrong, then to top it all off they are sulcutas which are not leaoprds at all and grow even bigger than leos. Ade __________________ Ade ----------------------------------------------- Y.O.B 1971 (40 years young! ) My Tortoises :- Dug (Testudo Graeca Ibera Terrestris (Syrian), Penny, JJ (JennyJack), Buttons and Gem (Testudo Graeca Ibera)

26-01-2007, 10:18 PM	#16
yam yam Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ESSEX UK Posts: 1,501	oh dear why do people sell animals with out telling you what they really are so sad on the buyers part if they cant house them when fully grow sham on those people __________________ lorna 0.0.1 Testudo hermanni

25-01-2007, 09:11 PM	#11
Lyn Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 3,533	I see lots of these for sale and I also see people advertising for tortoises stating that they don't care what kind it is I worry that there will be a lot left in rescues in the future. How did your friend take the news?

25-01-2007, 09:20 PM	#12
vivp Member Hatched Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 334	how big do they get then.

25-01-2007, 11:47 PM	#14
izzy Junior Member Egg Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 24	Well i phoned the girl who owns these animals tonight and told her that they are not leopards. She argued for a while and then i think it sunk in. Primarily she said "it doesnt matter what they are" but then i explained about the size they will grow to. I thought she was going to cry!! She says she is going to call the man who sold them to her tomorrow and ask why he sold them as leopards. She asked me if i would take two from her but at the moment I would seriously fail "the sulcata test" so i said no. She does have a field at the back of her large house that she uses for goats at the moment (and she does have money), we talked about the fact that this could be used in the future. She now needs to do a lot of reading about this species and talk it through with her husband. Unfortunately this is an example of someone who could give a very loving home to a smaller species, but probably wont be able to cope with sullies in the future. I hope she proves me wrong. Izzy

28-01-2007, 01:00 PM	#17
Tamie Milne Member Hatched Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Buckinghamshire Posts: 392	What pet shop did she get these torts from? Tamie

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