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Old 26-02-2013, 02:31 AM   #1
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Default Bell's egg pipping!

Laid mid-August. The egg developed a crack early on presumably from excess moisture. I put a steri strip over the crack. Thankfully it worked...
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Old 26-02-2013, 02:07 PM   #2
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Very nice and well done Is it Kinixys nogueyi? (Recently elevated again to species status with new DNA work done)

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Old 26-02-2013, 03:57 PM   #3
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Yay, great first aid skills
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Old 26-02-2013, 04:00 PM   #4
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Brilliant - hope it all goes well.
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Old 26-02-2013, 05:26 PM   #5
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Yes. K. b. n.

I have a pair of K. b. b. and the female has laid eggs for the first time this year (she is c.b.b. in US). They don't appear to be developing.
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Old 26-02-2013, 05:32 PM   #6
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One more Bells population allowed into the states...

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Old 26-02-2013, 07:27 PM   #7
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EJ, my adults were all old pets, >20 yrs. in the states. I picked them up one by one over the last 5 years or so. The story was the same in almost every case - someone who had a pet tortoise and was either sick or passed away. Now spouse or child didn't know how to, or didn't want to take care of them any longer.

I was lucky to find a male. It took a long time...
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Old 26-02-2013, 07:40 PM   #8
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I was responding to Dannys comment. It really doesn't matter what they are or if you recognise them as a subspecies or not... if FW recognises them as a full species, K. nogueyi... they can now be imported into the US. This happened with the Spekii. They are still being imported into the US as K. spekii in pretty good numbers even though they are Bells Hingebacks.

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EJ, my adults were all old pets, >20 yrs. in the states. I picked them up one by one over the last 5 years or so. The story was the same in almost every case - someone who had a pet tortoise and was either sick or passed away. Now spouse or child didn't know how to, or didn't want to take care of them any longer.

I was lucky to find a male. It took a long time...
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Old 26-02-2013, 08:03 PM   #9
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Hmmm...

I have Speks and morphologically they are quite different than the Bells I have. Both in coloration and shape.
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Here's the abstract, haven't wanted to pay for the article yet. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...660.x/abstract
The way they see it Kinixys belliana has a very restricted range and the northern part is now Kinixys nogueyi (with 4 clawed and 5 clawed populations (possible subspecies)). The DNA seems to confirm all named species are proper species. They also elevate K. b. zombensis to species level.

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