My Other Egg Pics Added Very Sad - Page 2

**Bindi** · 21-07-2011, 09:31 PM

I think it may have died

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2,Is that the eggsac at the bottom?

3, You can see what i think are scratch marks on the left hand side

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6, Excuse my pyjamas, I was holding the torch with my knees. You can see the air bubble at the bottom when i shine the torch underneath

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**Bindi** · 21-07-2011, 09:33 PM

What do we think? I'd rather know the worst really even though I am very sad.

Do they ever go much over 70 days?

I haven't seen it move

Kirkie · 21-07-2011, 09:52 PM

Hi Bindi

It looks like an egg thats very close to hatching to me. *I started marking the areas I thought was yolk sac with a pencil so I could check if it was decreasing. If it is, the babies alive.*
I didnt see much movement late on in mine, I figured the embryo spends a great deal of time resting up.

I also saw some early scratching away of the inner membrane, some hatched fine, some didn't.*

Very late on I could feel the tortoise moving around if I picked the egg up.*
Its tough not to intervene. I lost one half way out this year and i broke open a late egg which contained a deformed but alive tortoise that could not have broken out.

Dont know much about the duration for Iberas but I've read of up to 18 days between first and last. It never says whether the first was early or on time though. Your first one was early wasn't it?

Helen M · 21-07-2011, 10:00 PM

I too rarely ever see them move at this stage, not unless there are cracks on the egg surface just before they pip. Just hang in there and don't expect the worst straight away.

You can just about make out where the baby is within the egg. Can you see any blood vessels on the yolk sac?

Helen xx

porridge66 · 21-07-2011, 10:29 PM

Hi Bindi,

I too agree that it could be close to hatching. I know I haven't even had a tortoise yet but I used to breed parrots and they could be just as weird as this. I think that they just like to keep us on our toes.

Sarah xx

Kirkie · 21-07-2011, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bindi

and there look like a couple of crystals in the egg shell - very faint, I don't think a camera would pic it up

I had this too with pretty much all my developing eggs. Figured it's something to do with calcium being drawn from the egg shell by the embryo perhaps?

**Alan1** · 21-07-2011, 10:34 PM

...... hope so

TortBabe · 21-07-2011, 10:35 PM

And me hope the baby is well

**Bindi** · 21-07-2011, 10:41 PM

Thank you guys, I really hope so too - your words mean alot x

Neddy · 21-07-2011, 10:48 PM

Fingers Crossed

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21-07-2011, 09:31 PM	#11
Bindi Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,157	I think it may have died 1, 2,Is that the eggsac at the bottom? 3, You can see what i think are scratch marks on the left hand side 4, 5, 6, Excuse my pyjamas, I was holding the torch with my knees. You can see the air bubble at the bottom when i shine the torch underneath 7, 8, __________________

21-07-2011, 09:33 PM	#12
Bindi Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,157	My Other Egg Pics Added What do we think? I'd rather know the worst really even though I am very sad. Do they ever go much over 70 days? I haven't seen it move __________________

21-07-2011, 10:35 PM	#18
TortBabe Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 6,919	And me hope the baby is well __________________ Busy Mum to ~ 2 Kids, 2 Yorkies, 1 Horsfield, 6 Hermanns, 2 Iberas, 6 Tunisians, 2 Indian Stars and 2 Pancakes

21-07-2011, 10:41 PM	#19
Bindi Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Hampshire Posts: 11,157	Thank you guys, I really hope so too - your words mean alot x __________________

21-07-2011, 09:52 PM	#13
Kirkie Senior Member Adult Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,887	Hi Bindi It looks like an egg thats very close to hatching to me. I started marking the areas I thought was yolk sac with a pencil so I could check if it was decreasing. If it is, the babies alive. I didnt see much movement late on in mine, I figured the embryo spends a great deal of time resting up. I also saw some early scratching away of the inner membrane, some hatched fine, some didn't.* Very late on I could feel the tortoise moving around if I picked the egg up.* Its tough not to intervene. I lost one half way out this year and i broke open a late egg which contained a deformed but alive tortoise that could not have broken out. Dont know much about the duration for Iberas but I've read of up to 18 days between first and last. It never says whether the first was early or on time though. Your first one was early wasn't it?

21-07-2011, 10:00 PM	#14
Helen M Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,362	I too rarely ever see them move at this stage, not unless there are cracks on the egg surface just before they pip. Just hang in there and don't expect the worst straight away. You can just about make out where the baby is within the egg. Can you see any blood vessels on the yolk sac? Helen xx

21-07-2011, 10:29 PM	#15
porridge66 Member Incubating Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Stone, Staffordshire Posts: 116	Hi Bindi, I too agree that it could be close to hatching. I know I haven't even had a tortoise yet but I used to breed parrots and they could be just as weird as this. I think that they just like to keep us on our toes. Sarah xx

21-07-2011, 10:34 PM	#17
Alan1 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny Scotland Posts: 21,512	...... hope so

21-07-2011, 10:48 PM	#20
Neddy Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,456	Fingers Crossed xxxxxxxxxxx

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