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Ironic you should ask...
South African leopard tortoise baby... photo by Don Boyer.  ...and Richards a pretty good friend. Quote:
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12-01-2011, 05:13 PM
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now that is one sweet leopard.I figured cause the spots were joined on mine it was a cross.or possibly just easier too sell as babcocki rather too debate with a buyer over purity
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12-01-2011, 05:19 PM
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can't say richards a friend but from emails and phone coversation i'd say he's a pretty good guy.
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12-01-2011, 05:20 PM
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the growth rate on this guy is three times the others
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12-01-2011, 05:24 PM
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The gauge I go by is the spot is attached or not present = babcockii... the spot is single and unattached with only one spot = intergrade... one or more spots and speckled = pure pardalis... although current taxonomy only recognises pardalis... so I call them races.
I'm not sure that Richard agrees with me or not but I can pretty much guess the intergrades come from him. There is one other breeder in SoCal that produces these. I'm pretty sure they do occur in the wild. Good luck with them. Quote:
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12-01-2011, 05:27 PM
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12-01-2011, 05:30 PM
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another question if you don't mind .with babcocki some have no spots at all,so could pattern in pardalis pardalis also be diverse
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12-01-2011, 05:32 PM
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am planing too seperate him soon as i can take the two new ones out of quarentine thanks for the suggestion.
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12-01-2011, 05:35 PM
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With any species of reptile you are going to have diversity. In my experience that photo of the baby posted is very consistant. The pattern changes but remains within the guidelines I mentioned. I've never seen one without the spots or single spot without the speckling... that's not to say they can't exist.
I've seen a couple hundred with many of those from people who photographed them in SA. I've never seen a varience that extreme. Quote:
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