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midi-mania · 12-10-2007, 07:48 PM

when i get my tort back down to its suposed weight (next year) i will think about hibernation, i dont think i would feel safe doing it though unless i knew someone near to me who did it and could show me what to do

**sarah** · 12-10-2007, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LAURA

i thought hermans did
thats good as im so worried about hibernating sherman and co
as sherman hasnt been done yet and im so scared he will die
silly i know as you all di it with no problems

Hermanns do hibernate, hibernation is not hard but once you do it and they wake up you wondered why you were so scared. Its your choice.

**sarah** · 12-10-2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by midi-mania

hermans dont have to hibernate

Its your choice but they do hibernate.

I keep some none hibernating tortoises, red foots, pancakes, tunisians and indian stars.

tort71 · 12-10-2007, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by midi-mania

when i get my tort back down to its suposed weight (next year) i will think about hibernation, i dont think i would feel safe doing it though unless i knew someone near to me who did it and could show me what to do

Artificially reduce temperatures (70F day, 65F night) and light periods (10-12hrs). They will then slow down and trigger their survival mechanism to hibernate to deal with these conditions.

midi-mania · 12-10-2007, 07:54 PM

the one person i do know who has a torty knows less about them than me, but there hermans just randomly fell asleep for about 3 weeks 1-2months ago, it was asleep so they went on holiday and when they got back it was still asleep

Toni115 · 12-10-2007, 07:58 PM

Tamie Milne · 12-10-2007, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by midi-mania

when i get my tort back down to its suposed weight (next year) i will think about hibernation, i dont think i would feel safe doing it though unless i knew someone near to me who did it and could show me what to do

Surely hibernation is the best thing for this tortoise? As it is overweight then a period of hibernation will provide this tortoise with the period of non eating, why overwinter a tortoise (and therefore feed it) when it is overweight?

Tamie

helen1 · 12-10-2007, 08:43 PM

An overweight tortoise has an excess of coelimic fat which "squashes" the lungs. This requires extra respitory effort. The thinking behind not hibernating is to keep it active and cut the food back, hence weight loss whist keeping the tort active and reducing the pressure on lungs. It is possible that the weight loss in hibernation is not sufficient? Also if it is so overweight it is unhealthy.
I dont know the tortoise in question so can only presume to the extent of its excess weight.

I am sure I read something re this on the BCG site.

midi-mania · 12-10-2007, 08:45 PM

thak you helen, she is now on a diet of a shell coat per day, hopefully it wont take too long if i get her out and excersising more often, at the moment she cant get out much tho becaus eonly some days are warm

sandy · 12-10-2007, 09:03 PM

Hermans hibernate naturally in the wild, most try to imitate the wild as much as they can.
Leopards, egyptians, reds, yellows, aldabarans, sulcata, pancakes just to name a few that
dont hibernate<g>.

12-10-2007, 07:48 PM	#11
midi-mania Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mersyside Posts: 1,058	when i get my tort back down to its suposed weight (next year) i will think about hibernation, i dont think i would feel safe doing it though unless i knew someone near to me who did it and could show me what to do __________________ Gav

12-10-2007, 07:54 PM	#15
midi-mania Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mersyside Posts: 1,058	the one person i do know who has a torty knows less about them than me, but there hermans just randomly fell asleep for about 3 weeks 1-2months ago, it was asleep so they went on holiday and when they got back it was still asleep __________________ Gav

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Toni115 Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ongar Essex Posts: 3,203	__________________ Toni xx Proud owner of 1 redfoot, 1 moggy, 1 very stupid dog, 1 dwarf Lop, 2 leopard geckos and two teenage girls!

12-10-2007, 08:43 PM	#18
helen1 Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: NORTH WEST Posts: 1,977	An overweight tortoise has an excess of coelimic fat which "squashes" the lungs. This requires extra respitory effort. The thinking behind not hibernating is to keep it active and cut the food back, hence weight loss whist keeping the tort active and reducing the pressure on lungs. It is possible that the weight loss in hibernation is not sufficient? Also if it is so overweight it is unhealthy. I dont know the tortoise in question so can only presume to the extent of its excess weight. I am sure I read something re this on the BCG site. __________________ I CARE FOR TORTS

12-10-2007, 08:45 PM	#19
midi-mania Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: mersyside Posts: 1,058	thak you helen, she is now on a diet of a shell coat per day, hopefully it wont take too long if i get her out and excersising more often, at the moment she cant get out much tho becaus eonly some days are warm __________________ Gav

12-10-2007, 09:03 PM	#20
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	Hermans hibernate naturally in the wild, most try to imitate the wild as much as they can. Leopards, egyptians, reds, yellows, aldabarans, sulcata, pancakes just to name a few that dont hibernate<g>. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

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