"YOUNG FLASH"...THE PIC YOU ASKED TO SEE...

terrific tortoises · 21-10-2006, 10:56 PM

...When one of this years hermanns hatchlings was born (actually, it was the one with the unusual scute)...There was something left over in the egg, I have not seen this before, but it looks like it may have possibly been a twin?...
I was just wondering if any other breeders here have seen anything like this before?, here is the pic I took

...T.T. 8)

**Eire_Ade** · 21-10-2006, 11:07 PM

Thats amazing TT, thanks for showing us the pics, it does look like the start of something.

Scuter is really a very special tortoise insn't he / she.

Ade

yam yam · 21-10-2006, 11:15 PM

aww what a shame if it was a twin

glad you showed us thanksw T.T

Henry-flash · 21-10-2006, 11:15 PM

That is interesting TT. It would have been very interesting if scuter had been a twin. Just makes the little guy that little bit more special. Thanks for digging the pic out

piglet · 22-10-2006, 09:49 AM

TT certainly a dead embryo , have seen this before in turtles but not tortoises ,I do know that Darren from tortoise friends has had his from several eggs from his Ibera.
Darren

**egyptiandan64** · 22-10-2006, 03:12 PM

Like Darren I've not seen it in any of my tortoises, but I have with turtles. All of mine have been attached to the yolk. It looks like that one of yours TT had a small yolk of it's own and it used it up before it could get full size. I've have plenty of twins with box turtles, painted turtles and snapping turtles. Once with a snapping turtle egg I got 2 perfect twins. Both the same size and attached to the yolk sack. They were tiny, unfortunately they only lasted a week

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Dan

terrific tortoises · 28-10-2006, 12:28 PM

piglet, hey darren, I thought it may have been an embryo. Yes mate I have seen the other Darrens various pics with not only twins but also triplets. Its probably just as well that only one survived because it is quite rare for multiple births, saying that though, it would have been great to see twins too

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egyptiandan64, hey dan, like you have said, its rare for multiple births to be a complete success, I guess its because of their birth size/weight, also other factors too...still, you never know, it may occure for one of us in the future

...T.T. 8)

28-10-2006, 05:33 PM

l heard before that twns can be common?

21-10-2006, 10:56 PM	#1
terrific tortoises Member Juvenile Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 861	"YOUNG FLASH"...THE PIC YOU ASKED TO SEE... ...When one of this years hermanns hatchlings was born (actually, it was the one with the unusual scute)...There was something left over in the egg, I have not seen this before, but it looks like it may have possibly been a twin?... I was just wondering if any other breeders here have seen anything like this before?, here is the pic I took ...T.T. 8) __________________

21-10-2006, 11:07 PM	#2
Eire_Ade Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ireland Posts: 8,422	Thats amazing TT, thanks for showing us the pics, it does look like the start of something. Scuter is really a very special tortoise insn't he / she. Ade __________________ Ade ----------------------------------------------- Y.O.B 1971 (40 years young! ) My Tortoises :- Dug (Testudo Graeca Ibera Terrestris (Syrian), Penny, JJ (JennyJack), Buttons and Gem (Testudo Graeca Ibera)

21-10-2006, 11:15 PM	#4
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	That is interesting TT. It would have been very interesting if scuter had been a twin. Just makes the little guy that little bit more special. Thanks for digging the pic out __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

22-10-2006, 09:49 AM	#5
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	TT certainly a dead embryo , have seen this before in turtles but not tortoises ,I do know that Darren from tortoise friends has had his from several eggs from his Ibera. Darren __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

22-10-2006, 03:12 PM	#6
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Like Darren I've not seen it in any of my tortoises, but I have with turtles. All of mine have been attached to the yolk. It looks like that one of yours TT had a small yolk of it's own and it used it up before it could get full size. I've have plenty of twins with box turtles, painted turtles and snapping turtles. Once with a snapping turtle egg I got 2 perfect twins. Both the same size and attached to the yolk sack. They were tiny, unfortunately they only lasted a week . Dan __________________

21-10-2006, 11:15 PM	#3
yam yam Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: ESSEX UK Posts: 1,501	aww what a shame if it was a twin glad you showed us thanksw T.T

28-10-2006, 12:28 PM	#7
terrific tortoises Member Juvenile Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 861	piglet, hey darren, I thought it may have been an embryo. Yes mate I have seen the other Darrens various pics with not only twins but also triplets. Its probably just as well that only one survived because it is quite rare for multiple births, saying that though, it would have been great to see twins too ... egyptiandan64, hey dan, like you have said, its rare for multiple births to be a complete success, I guess its because of their birth size/weight, also other factors too...still, you never know, it may occure for one of us in the future ...T.T. 8) __________________

28-10-2006, 05:33 PM	#8
pmullen Guest Posts: n/a	l heard before that twns can be common?

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