hatchlings unable to open mouth

[Hanako]

Originally Posted by CherryBrandy

oh no ! Posting is never ideal though is it in these circumstances! I think Gordon did do a pre-empt as in you won't like this......CB

Really? So pre-emptying make it fine? Like those people who say "I don't want to be rude, but..." followed by something pretty offensive, but because the speaker said that he doesn't want to be rude, it somehow doesn't count?

Never mind, Gordon didn't write the worst one. There are other candidates for that. Sorry to be such a b..tch, but at the moment I am slightly annoyed, because I came here for advice and support and it seems that on this occasion the support was lacking from some posters. And it wasn't even the fact that they had different opinion, but how they were presenting the opinion. Like if their way was the only right way and anyone else who does differently is abusing animals. I will think twice before I ever ask here for an advice if any of my sweethearts get sick. I wouldn't want to be branded animal abuser.

[Gordon]

Hanako if this baby survives I will be very happy for you I was not trying to be nasty in anyway nor was anybody else but as you have gone down the line of breeding sometimes things go wrong and you have to be able to make decisions that you don't like if you can't do that then maybe it might be a good idea not to pursue breeding any further which is the very reason a lot of people don't do it.
I remember the first time I had to do it I hated it and still don't like doing it only the other week I had a hermans hatchling whose eyes were under its mouth area and it had no mouth I would post a picture but I'm sure it would upset a lot of people so I had it put to sleep but it still sadened me. So what I'm trying to say is its not easy and maybe some babies would of been ok but I personally don't like to think they are suffering. That's my opinion

[alley cat]

Just say it!!!! You mean me

Nothing excuses the length of time you left that baby starving before getting veterinary help.

If the baby is not eating normally then my guess will be that it will still die eventually so you may just be prolonging its suffering, however your view would probably be that you gave it a chance!

Good luck to the little one.

[Hanako]

Originally Posted by alley cat

Just say it!!!! You mean me

Nothing excuses the length of time you left that baby starving before getting veterinary help.

If the baby is not eating normally then my guess will be that it will still die eventually so you may just be prolonging its suffering, however your view would probably be that you gave it a chance!

Good luck to the little one.

I was trying to get help from vet much earlier, but not many vets are willing to work with 10 gram baby. It wasn't about me not wanting vet to help, or wanting to save money ; it was about finding anyone who would try. I did find one eventually, but it wasn't even reptile specialist. One has to take what is available. And yes, I do see it that I gave it a chance.
And I really didn't mind that you have a different opinion, but the was how you wrote it wasn't very helpful.

[alley cat]

Originally Posted by Hanako

And I really didn't mind that you have a different opinion, but the was how you wrote it wasn't very helpful.

Which bit in particular?

[burnt toast]

Its great news that your 2nd baby is now eating Hannah. Can you share with us what has worked for your hatchling please as I am sure it will be helpful to people in a similar position in future. Very sadly I saw a post on a facebook site with just such a hatchling only last week. Unfortunately that hatchling was put to sleep

[Hanako]

She successfully survived two rounds of general anaesthetic. The first time the vet opened the mouth while she was sleeping but after she woke up, she still wasn't eating. Second time the vet again forced the mouth open and tried to manipulate with the mouth a bit while she was sleeping. I don't think the vet knew what he was doing considering that he isn't a specialist for reptiles, but all treatments (of humans and animals) first needed someone willing to try and some patient (or animal owner) being desperate enough to let the doctor or vet to try. It cost a fortune, but that's not the point. I can't claim that it is completely sorted, we will see in a few days. Maybe she will survive, maybe she will die, but we tried and fought for her.

[burnt toast]

Well done. I too think you should give them every chance. A lot of vets arent willing to try with small animals. I was lucky that mine did and was willing to "think outside the box" & try things.

[Wyannis]

Pleased to hear the little one is eating. You've tried your very best to give it a chance and I really hope it makes a full recovery. Xxx

[Anita Sayles]

I'm pleased to hear of the slight improvement and wish the little one the best of luck.