Asian Leaf Turtles

[Geomyda]

Love Banana too:

[Kirkie]

What a splendid head the front one has

[Geomyda]

Originally Posted by Kirkie

What a splendid head the front one has

That is one of the females.

[Kirkie]

Ahhh, that explains the big head.

[ClareandCo]

Originally Posted by Kirkie

Ahhh, that explains the big head.

Oi - careful!

Lovely photos, again.

[egyptiandan64]

Great picture Paul

What species are they?

Danny

[Geomyda]

Originally Posted by egyptiandan64

Great picture Paul

What species are they?

Danny

Good question. I have had them from very young animals and I sense that they were all the same species from the same type locality. However, typically no collection details were, at that time available.
I now believe these to be Cyclemys oldhamii, and have a group of 2:2
However, with the current work by Taxonomists on this group, this may well be corrected at some time in the future.
I do also have an adult female, which I have had since 2001, which I believe is Cyclemys atripons pulchristriata. Again, difficult to be sure because no locality details were provided when I got her. All these animals came from the Asian Food markets in the early 2000's.

[justmeandmytortoise]

Wonderful colour .. why are they called 'leaf'

[egyptiandan64]

Can you post plastron pictures and side of the head pictures for all of them?
Yes the Genus has changed quite a bit lately and probably will change again slightly in the future.
The ones now that are the toughest to tell apart are 2 of the newest ones. Cyclemys fusca and C. gemeli which seem can only be told apart by genetics or locality.

Danny

[Geomyda]

Originally Posted by egyptiandan64

Can you post plastron pictures and side of the head pictures for all of them?
Yes the Genus has changed quite a bit lately and probably will change again slightly in the future.
The ones now that are the toughest to tell apart are 2 of the newest ones. Cyclemys fusca and C. gemeli which seem can only be told apart by genetics or locality.

Danny

The pair of animals Photographed earlier in this thread cam to me as very young, near hatchlings in 1999. Attached is the plastron pic's of these two. My other specimens need to be photographed, or at least, their pic's need to be uploaded onto my Photobucket album:


Much of the problem, Danny is the source of the specimens. The Asian food trade, has created a huge market for unregulated and certainly undocumented collection details. Therefore, animals from all across South east Asia are often mixed up at wholesale market locations and trans shipped, often illegally.
The prospect of pure genetic, type locality specimens is rendered very difficult indeed. We know that in the Farms a number of species are effectively hybridized, and Chimera specimens created, which have fooled some of the best Taxonomists currently working in the field of Chelonian Biology!