Some interesting reading - Page 2

Suze65 · 01-03-2016, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Nowt wrong with being an eccentric crank.

No, indeed not !

Jan W · 01-03-2016, 07:47 PM

Very interesting and still working my way through it. Interesting comments on the male being active earlier and for longer and comments about torts restless behaviour, particularly in light of recent posts.

Thank you
Jan

Finsky · 01-03-2016, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jan W

Very interesting and still working my way through it. Interesting comments on the male being active earlier and for longer and comments about torts restless behaviour, particularly in light of recent posts.

Thank you
Jan

ooo? That sounds interesting reading...I assume with 'recent posts' you mean one of mine..

'off to investigate.....'

Jan W · 01-03-2016, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Finsky

ooo? That sounds interesting reading...I assume with 'recent posts' you mean one of mine..

'off to investigate.....'

Yes definitely thinking of Putin!

JerryMaffz · 01-03-2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Gordon

Nowt wrong with being an eccentric crank.

I concur, Gordon.

CherryBrandy · 02-03-2016, 11:40 AM

quite purist though. Syrian hamsters come from Syria - or do they...Personally I loved the book and site but if I had a Syrian hamster it would be in pet shop sawdust not a syrian habitat. Don't hug it because its wild ! mad even. If it is adequate and meets welfare demands then that should be good enough. The book is for experts perhaps as I think it would put some new TK's off.
CB

Suze65 · 02-03-2016, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by CherryBrandy

quite purist though. Syrian hamsters come from Syria - or do they...Personally I loved the book and site but if I had a Syrian hamster it would be in pet shop sawdust not a syrian habitat. Don't hug it because its wild ! mad even. If it is adequate and meets welfare demands then that should be good enough. The book is for experts perhaps as I think it would put some new TK's off.
CB

Yes but, keeping mammals is very different to keeping reptiles, and You do have to create as close a natural habitat as possible to re create those very specific conditions for good growth and health, unlike many mammles. I personally think to be a tortoise keeper you do need to be a bit of geek or nerd about it, unlike mammals. I have seen first hand with one of my hatchlings ( pickle ) who went to a new home, I gave a full set of clear instructions on how to keep a hatchling tortoise, and it was nearly a disaster. I really do believe if it puts people off, then they are not committed or dare I say nerdy enough. I'm not having a rant, but that's just what I believe. And to be honest what would animal welfare in this country demand for keeping tortoises, I doubt they have a clue about the reality of creating the right conditions for good growth, they would probably say, if it's got food and water then that's fine, but we know that's not the case. Just saying.

CherryBrandy · 02-03-2016, 11:58 AM

i'm with you Suze ! the book still paints a purist view though in mho !

(and I wouldn't put two syrian hamster together either, nasty). CB

JerryMaffz · 02-03-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CherryBrandy

quite purist though. Syrian hamsters come from Syria - or do they...Personally I loved the book and site but if I had a Syrian hamster it would be in pet shop sawdust not a syrian habitat. Don't hug it because its wild ! mad even. If it is adequate and meets welfare demands then that should be good enough. The book is for experts perhaps as I think it would put some new TK's off.
CB

You're right CB, it is a purists view. I do see your point but I'm in the "new TK" camp, definitely no "expert" (do they exist?). I own Wolfgangs book and it inspires me, rather than put me off.
I do think mammals, especially rodents are a lot more adaptable than reptiles...My hamster Owen lived to be over 3 years, I do miss the little fella.

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Originally Posted by Suze65

I personally think to be a tortoise keeper you do need to be a bit of geek or nerd about it, unlike mammals. I have seen first hand with one of my hatchlings ( pickle ) who went to a new home, I gave a full set of clear instructions on how to keep a hatchling tortoise, and it was nearly a disaster. I really do believe if it puts people off, then they are not committed or dare I say nerdy enough.

Agree 100% with this Suze.

CherryBrandy · 02-03-2016, 04:00 PM

im not sure I would have 'nerdy tortoise keeper' on my t shirt but agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment. The number of people who say oooh I want a tortoise and then when it comes to it don't actually want one or know what's involved. In future I will call them non nerdy and refer them to the hamster shop.

My one was called Barney, Keith. When I was about 8 I had one and called him Brandy. It was going to be called Guinness (bless my nan), but I couldn't spell it at 8 years old. CB

02-03-2016, 11:40 AM	#16
CherryBrandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SE England Posts: 4,262	quite purist though. Syrian hamsters come from Syria - or do they...Personally I loved the book and site but if I had a Syrian hamster it would be in pet shop sawdust not a syrian habitat. Don't hug it because its wild ! mad even. If it is adequate and meets welfare demands then that should be good enough. The book is for experts perhaps as I think it would put some new TK's off. CB __________________ Horsfields, Spur Thighed, & Marginata

02-03-2016, 11:58 AM	#18
CherryBrandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SE England Posts: 4,262	i'm with you Suze ! the book still paints a purist view though in mho ! (and I wouldn't put two syrian hamster together either, nasty). CB __________________ Horsfields, Spur Thighed, & Marginata

02-03-2016, 04:00 PM	#20
CherryBrandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: SE England Posts: 4,262	im not sure I would have 'nerdy tortoise keeper' on my t shirt but agree wholeheartedly with the sentiment. The number of people who say oooh I want a tortoise and then when it comes to it don't actually want one or know what's involved. In future I will call them non nerdy and refer them to the hamster shop. My one was called Barney, Keith. When I was about 8 I had one and called him Brandy. It was going to be called Guinness (bless my nan), but I couldn't spell it at 8 years old. CB __________________ Horsfields, Spur Thighed, & Marginata

01-03-2016, 07:47 PM	#12
Jan W Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Hampshire Posts: 1,400	Very interesting and still working my way through it. Interesting comments on the male being active earlier and for longer and comments about torts restless behaviour, particularly in light of recent posts. Thank you Jan

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