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then again you will be feeding certain weeds but how much of each weed do you feed? |
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if it has to be only 5 then I wouldn't include dandelion or chickweed. chickweed and dandelion should only be fed in moderation. TTT has dandelion as safe to feed yet goes on to explain why it should only be fed in moderation, can't understand that one I would list it as feed sparingly rather than safe to feed.
dandelion is high in oxalates and is a diuretic which can cause dehydration and bladder stones (and by association, possibly the first stages of pyramiding) so why list it as 'safe'? they have chickweed as feed in moderation but no reasons as to why it's not listed as safe to feed sowthistle would be on my list but to be honest, 5 is not near enough even for starters |
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..actually, all plants should be listed as feed in moderation since no one knows how most plants affect torts long term. we exclude some plants that are toxic to mammals yet feed plants like hosta to torts, hosta is toxic to horses, cats and dogs so how does anyone know it doesn't do long term damage to the organs of torts? it is known that torts eat highly toxic plants in the wild, do they need to eat them or just fancy them? if they need them and we exclude them are we doing them long term harm?
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Exactly how much of each was another factor I was looking at and I asked for 5 top ones to allow for different lists/opinions making the sublist longer and giving space to add my own extras ontop as I learn more.
Just wondered if everybody using weeds was throwing in a bit of everything - if this is working please could I have that list, or different amounts of set plants topped up with wild grown and extras? Using the pellets topping up with small amounts of lots of weeds seems the most balanced food at the moment especially over winter months but if I can satisfy myself that I have the diet right I would prefer to use a fresh homegrown diet |
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The point I'm making is that you can formulate a diet with relatively known ingredients. Once again... the formulated diets are based on a biological model to begin with. They are then tweeked based on input from data on specific animals.
My faith goes with those who seem to know what they are doing. This faith is based on what I think is some pretty good networking and research.
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if I was listing five then they would be.. 1 campanula 2 sowthistle 3 plantain 4 cat's ear 5 lavatera this is a good list http://www.thetortoisehouse.com/Edible04.htm Last edited by Alan1; 31-05-2011 at 01:42 PM. |
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Conspicuous by their absence are Grape leaves and Mulberry leaves. My leopards eat a lot of these all summer.
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mulberry is listed on that link I posted, I don't think I've ever seen one though
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