Leopard tortoise REAL CARE - Page 2

myhermannitortoises · 01-06-2007, 10:39 AM

she thinks i dont know anything about leopard tortoises

terrypin · 01-06-2007, 10:41 AM

with all her experience who am i to argue.
terry

tortoiseguy · 01-06-2007, 10:51 AM

I agree it would be lovely to return them to the wild, but the fact is that we dont know how long they were in captivity before shipping, what diseases they may have and which specific region they came from. If they were released they could potentialy infect other wild tortoises and wipe out a whole area. The best option is to find them all great homes where they will live long healthy and happy lives, which is exactly what Tamie and the TT have done.

Lyn · 01-06-2007, 10:52 AM

I thought you wanted one of the Heathrow Leopards.

Is this because you weren't allowed to have one? This is all a bit childish so I am not voting.

myhermannitortoises · 01-06-2007, 11:00 AM

no, because some other people on a different forum have asked why she doesn't put them back into the wild. i did want one but now a load of people have told me that they may have disease and i dont think i could risk it, alos please vote as it may say an accurate vote on what should really happen to the leopards because they have been taken out of their own country and put into artificial conditions. If they were put back into the wild (in africa obliviously) thgen i think it would do them a lot better than keeping them in the country. by the way ive got a leopaards tortoise now. been down the pet shop and they had a sudden rush of loads of leopard and horsfield tortoises so they gave me a leopard tortoise 40 minutes ago. Also the reason i am asking everyone in this forum is because i asked sarah and her reply was "Dont be so silly. I am not even going to answer that one."
I still havn't done anything wrong on this forum as you can see

Henry-flash · 01-06-2007, 11:01 AM

Well done for supporting the WC trade, buying from petshops just opens the gates for more to be imported

Sarahs reply is exactly what mine would have been

myhermannitortoises · 01-06-2007, 11:02 AM

it was captive bred, isnt giving out the tortoises supporting wild caught trade? and i didnt buy it i got given it as there was too much stock, what can i say

Henry-flash · 01-06-2007, 11:04 AM

Yes I'm sure it is 'captive bred'

Of course giving them out isn't supporting the trade. They have been seized by customs and so need rehoming. They can't be returned to the wild for the reasons already stated by people and so they need to be rehomed, thats not increasing the demand for more to be brought in.
Good luck with your new Leopard, I'm sure your going to need it!

Lyn · 01-06-2007, 11:06 AM

These tortoises were destined for pet shops and probably would not have got the good care that they are getting from the people who they have been rehomed to. I think the right decision has been made. Although we would all have love to seen them be reintroduced back into the wild, this is not going to happen. This would need to involve a huge amount of people, take lots of planning etc... and putting them through the stress of all that travelling etc.. again is not good. I do not see this as supporting the wild caught trade. These have been rescued and now have a great chance.

myhermannitortoises · 01-06-2007, 11:07 AM

"new leopard?" ive been looking after it in the pet shop that i work in for the last two years as i have stated. yeah he is ok. i still dont see why they cant put them in a nature reserve in africa. thanks for your opinions. oh so there is less demand? less tortoises in africa, more leopards in england

01-06-2007, 10:41 AM	#12
terrypin Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: jersey c.i. Posts: 2,928	with all her experience who am i to argue. terry __________________ these are my own opinions do with them what you will. _________________

01-06-2007, 11:01 AM	#16
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	Well done for supporting the WC trade, buying from petshops just opens the gates for more to be imported Sarahs reply is exactly what mine would have been __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

01-06-2007, 11:04 AM	#18
Henry-flash Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Cheshire Posts: 9,304	Yes I'm sure it is 'captive bred' Of course giving them out isn't supporting the trade. They have been seized by customs and so need rehoming. They can't be returned to the wild for the reasons already stated by people and so they need to be rehomed, thats not increasing the demand for more to be brought in. Good luck with your new Leopard, I'm sure your going to need it! __________________ Peter Keeping: Testudo hermanni, Testudo graeca (graeca & ibera ), Testudo horsfieldi, Astrochelys radiata, Malacochersus tornieri and Kinixys belliana. The North West Tortoise Group

01-06-2007, 10:39 AM	#11
myhermannitortoises Junior Member Egg Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	she thinks i dont know anything about leopard tortoises

01-06-2007, 10:51 AM	#13
tortoiseguy Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Manchester Posts: 1,020	I agree it would be lovely to return them to the wild, but the fact is that we dont know how long they were in captivity before shipping, what diseases they may have and which specific region they came from. If they were released they could potentialy infect other wild tortoises and wipe out a whole area. The best option is to find them all great homes where they will live long healthy and happy lives, which is exactly what Tamie and the TT have done.

01-06-2007, 10:52 AM	#14
Lyn Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 3,533	I thought you wanted one of the Heathrow Leopards. Is this because you weren't allowed to have one? This is all a bit childish so I am not voting.

01-06-2007, 11:00 AM	#15
myhermannitortoises Junior Member Egg Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	no, because some other people on a different forum have asked why she doesn't put them back into the wild. i did want one but now a load of people have told me that they may have disease and i dont think i could risk it, alos please vote as it may say an accurate vote on what should really happen to the leopards because they have been taken out of their own country and put into artificial conditions. If they were put back into the wild (in africa obliviously) thgen i think it would do them a lot better than keeping them in the country. by the way ive got a leopaards tortoise now. been down the pet shop and they had a sudden rush of loads of leopard and horsfield tortoises so they gave me a leopard tortoise 40 minutes ago. Also the reason i am asking everyone in this forum is because i asked sarah and her reply was "Dont be so silly. I am not even going to answer that one." I still havn't done anything wrong on this forum as you can see

01-06-2007, 11:02 AM	#17
myhermannitortoises Junior Member Egg Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	it was captive bred, isnt giving out the tortoises supporting wild caught trade? and i didnt buy it i got given it as there was too much stock, what can i say

01-06-2007, 11:06 AM	#19
Lyn Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 3,533	These tortoises were destined for pet shops and probably would not have got the good care that they are getting from the people who they have been rehomed to. I think the right decision has been made. Although we would all have love to seen them be reintroduced back into the wild, this is not going to happen. This would need to involve a huge amount of people, take lots of planning etc... and putting them through the stress of all that travelling etc.. again is not good. I do not see this as supporting the wild caught trade. These have been rescued and now have a great chance.

01-06-2007, 11:07 AM	#20
myhermannitortoises Junior Member Egg Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 22	"new leopard?" ive been looking after it in the pet shop that i work in for the last two years as i have stated. yeah he is ok. i still dont see why they cant put them in a nature reserve in africa. thanks for your opinions. oh so there is less demand? less tortoises in africa, more leopards in england

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