worst keeper ive ever seen

sulcata2big · 08-01-2008, 07:19 PM

hi,just thought i would tell people what ive seen because it was so bad. just to make people aware of how bad some keepers are.
ive been looking for bells hingebacks for some time now ive put adverts on various forums and have had alot of bells hingebacks offered to me. i got offered a pair off a guy in wakefield which was ideal for me as i live in wakefield, ive just been to see them tonight what a horror show. in his sitting room he had a 4ft fish tank with a heat mat in with wood shavings, a normal light bulb for light, 1 sulcata tortoise, 3 indian stars, i couldnt make out what the other ones were as they were burried in the shavings. the tank was full of condensation. they were fed on some dry food which ive never seen before it didnt even look like pellets. he had a large leopard and eight other small ones a couple of redfoots, some yellowfoots, some marginated, hermanns and some other species of tortoises which i wasnt to sure of, most of these were nice large tortoises with really smooth shells, but i cant imagine these being captive bred. these tortoise were all living in the same enclosure upstairs in this guys house. the hingebacks i went to see, the male had really bad shell rot and all of his toes on his back leg were missing, obviously wild caught. then he produced kinixys erosa the forest hinge back which ive never seen before and never known anyone to keep, he told me any tortoise i wanted he could get them imported for me as he had a friend who owned a pet shop. the guy lived in a terraced house, i didnt see his back garden but i cant imagine it to be very big, i dont think these tortoises have ever seen the light of day. this is the worst tortoise keeper ive ever seen in my life i left feeling a bit disturbed as it was clear it was cruel.

Laraine · 08-01-2008, 07:48 PM

sounds like a case for RSPCA or would DEFRA be better

kirstiekoo · 08-01-2008, 07:59 PM

Theres a well know internet seller advertising some of the more unusual tortoises

Maybe this is where their kept before posting out to his buyers

piglet · 08-01-2008, 08:01 PM

Jesus sounds terrible I would inform the RSPCA

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alicia · 08-01-2008, 08:02 PM

defo, it's so upsetting

keep us updated if u do contact the RSPCA or something

Laraine · 08-01-2008, 08:03 PM

RSPCA have a hotline to report things to, I think it will still be available, if you try now

kaz9t9 · 08-01-2008, 08:09 PM

how awful, i would definatly report this. poor little guys

kimmerz · 08-01-2008, 08:16 PM

Thats a shame, he's either uneducated on torts or just ignorant and don't care. people who know how importation works and don't care as long as they make money are just not worth bothering with, I had an import that passed after 2 months and it was heartbreaking and to this day I miss him so much but it's no skin off the dealers nose is it. I hope this importation ban can be made happen because importing ruins and ends lives.

linda · 08-01-2008, 09:01 PM

how extremely upsetting

please let us know what if anything the rspca has to say

wildlifewarrior · 08-01-2008, 09:04 PM

yea generally they don't do alot when it concerns petshops but they do come down hard on individual owners. they have a 24 hour hotline.

08-01-2008, 07:19 PM	#1
sulcata2big Member Hatchling Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Wakefield Posts: 613	worst keeper ive ever seen hi,just thought i would tell people what ive seen because it was so bad. just to make people aware of how bad some keepers are. ive been looking for bells hingebacks for some time now ive put adverts on various forums and have had alot of bells hingebacks offered to me. i got offered a pair off a guy in wakefield which was ideal for me as i live in wakefield, ive just been to see them tonight what a horror show. in his sitting room he had a 4ft fish tank with a heat mat in with wood shavings, a normal light bulb for light, 1 sulcata tortoise, 3 indian stars, i couldnt make out what the other ones were as they were burried in the shavings. the tank was full of condensation. they were fed on some dry food which ive never seen before it didnt even look like pellets. he had a large leopard and eight other small ones a couple of redfoots, some yellowfoots, some marginated, hermanns and some other species of tortoises which i wasnt to sure of, most of these were nice large tortoises with really smooth shells, but i cant imagine these being captive bred. these tortoise were all living in the same enclosure upstairs in this guys house. the hingebacks i went to see, the male had really bad shell rot and all of his toes on his back leg were missing, obviously wild caught. then he produced kinixys erosa the forest hinge back which ive never seen before and never known anyone to keep, he told me any tortoise i wanted he could get them imported for me as he had a friend who owned a pet shop. the guy lived in a terraced house, i didnt see his back garden but i cant imagine it to be very big, i dont think these tortoises have ever seen the light of day. this is the worst tortoise keeper ive ever seen in my life i left feeling a bit disturbed as it was clear it was cruel.

08-01-2008, 07:48 PM	#2
Laraine Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wirral Posts: 3,622	sounds like a case for RSPCA or would DEFRA be better __________________ Laraine ________________________

08-01-2008, 08:01 PM	#4
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	Jesus sounds terrible I would inform the RSPCA d __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

08-01-2008, 08:02 PM	#5
alicia Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: waterlooville, Hampshire Posts: 2,328	defo, it's so upsetting keep us updated if u do contact the RSPCA or something __________________ 0.0.2 graeca ibera

08-01-2008, 08:03 PM	#6
Laraine Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wirral Posts: 3,622	RSPCA have a hotline to report things to, I think it will still be available, if you try now __________________ Laraine ________________________

08-01-2008, 07:59 PM	#3
kirstiekoo Junior Member Egg Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 42	Theres a well know internet seller advertising some of the more unusual tortoises Maybe this is where their kept before posting out to his buyers

08-01-2008, 08:09 PM	#7
kaz9t9 Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: southend-on-sea Posts: 1,449	how awful, i would definatly report this. poor little guys __________________ Kristy

08-01-2008, 08:16 PM	#8
kimmerz Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bristol Posts: 1,279	Thats a shame, he's either uneducated on torts or just ignorant and don't care. people who know how importation works and don't care as long as they make money are just not worth bothering with, I had an import that passed after 2 months and it was heartbreaking and to this day I miss him so much but it's no skin off the dealers nose is it. I hope this importation ban can be made happen because importing ruins and ends lives. __________________ 7 hermanns-Paris, Turbo, Pumba, Dave, Izzy, Miami and Zippy. 2 reds- Tommy and Elliot

08-01-2008, 09:01 PM	#9
linda Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: west midlands Posts: 17,134	how extremely upsetting please let us know what if anything the rspca has to say

08-01-2008, 09:04 PM	#10
wildlifewarrior Banned Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: stokie for life Posts: 4,272	yea generally they don't do alot when it concerns petshops but they do come down hard on individual owners. they have a 24 hour hotline.

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