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Old 11-05-2015, 08:15 PM   #11
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It is a male trait, "wide wheel arches" as I call them (the skirt across back legs!)
Very good description 😄
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Old 13-05-2015, 07:15 AM   #12
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Hi everyone,

Thanks a lot for your input, I'll settle with THB

Just a question if you don't mind me asking here: Do you think Freddy and Vilma look ok? I have recently been reading about pyramiding and they were already like this (a bit of pyramiding) when we got them. I am trying to provide enough humidity and proper food for them with lots of fresh air, excersise, ect. but I noticed that at the back above their legs the shape of the shell is a bit like a skirt (coming out, not round). Is this normal? I don't see many other torts like them

Mark, your tort looks amazing, Ema is right How old is he?
Thanks he's 12 this year
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Old 14-05-2015, 11:37 AM   #13
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[QUOTE=cyjambo;652592]Hi everyone,

Thanks a lot for your input, I'll settle with THB

Just a question if you don't mind me asking here: Do you think Freddy and Vilma look ok?


Hi there. It's always wise be cautious saying much on the basis of photos, although these are really good ones. I'm not seeing anything obvious wrong. Yes there is some pyramiding which does reflect some combination of factors bieng at work probably including diet and humidity at crucial times and conditions were not perfect.

But in my opinion this doesn't matter at all if the tortoises have a sound bone structure underneath and move easily and do all the normal things.

I can't say this with any authority but I think the wide wheel arches are a feature of the male shape that starts to show as the hermann tortoise grows into pre adult stage. My males (which are hermanni hermanni) have it after a certain point and my females don't (regardless of stage of development).
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