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Old 20-09-2019, 11:11 AM   #1
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Default Testudo hermanni hermanni?

Hello everyone, i always had problems in identifying this male. As you can see he has an asimmetry in the plastron so i can't understand if it's t.h.h. or t.h.b.. That said, shape seems to suggest t.h.h. but the black seems reduced

Can anyone help me? Thanks a lot

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Old 20-09-2019, 01:17 PM   #2
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Hello id say thats neither. Definitely not Western and I don't think Eastern. I suspect (but im no expert) its a Dalmatian / herc.. Hermanns.
(has the "ski slope" pectoral seam)
See what others think x
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Old 20-09-2019, 02:33 PM   #3
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I'm inclined to agree with Lynn as I can't see any inguinal scutes either.
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Old 20-09-2019, 02:47 PM   #4
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I'm sorry i didn't take them in the photos but he has both clear inguinal scutes

Do you think anyway he Is a hybrid?
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Old 20-09-2019, 02:52 PM   #5
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https://ibb.co/YXpPLnL

here's the photo, is the same both sides

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Old 20-09-2019, 03:29 PM   #6
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I know hercs can have inguinals, sometimes squat ones, but these look like my THBs' inguinals. None of my hercs have them or just one very short squat one. It could well be a hybrid.
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Chickens 0.2.0: Beatrice & Emilia
White's Tree Frog (Litoria Caerulea) 1.0.0: Tiko
Mack Snow Leopard Gecko 0.1.0: Jazz
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