mr. indian star v miss herman

[EJ]

I don't think the chances are very good but more odd breedings have taken place... Redfoot x Radiated.

That would be an interesting mix.

Originally Posted by burger

hi EJ!

i don't think there will be any health problem for them, they are all CB and had them since yearly hatchling , and they are always live in same garden in the summer and never had any problem for last 6years.

when mr star mounted ms herman and start to shaking his body i always try to look close, so far still can't see any into it yet, but getting improve if compare with 2 weeks ago, he always got right place now, or he may done it already! who know...

so how big the chance ms herman laying the eggs ?

[X DANIELLE X]

Originally Posted by stells

Why would you want to... oh hang on... i get it... these sort of hybrids would be easy money wouldn't they... thats the only reason i can see that you would want this pairing to work... greed.. i'm sorry but this just angers me... there are others of us trying to find the best matches for our tortoises... and then others who will breed anything together... give me strength.

I second this....I do not believe this is right even though you say they have been together six years in the garden it's still not natural. They will not cross paths in the wild so they really shouldnt in our care either. In my eyes you are tormenting the male star and torturing the female Hermann by allowing him to bother her in the first place!m

[Xero]

I dont want to get involed since i see and "debate" taking place lol.. but just wander whats your lots views on cross breeding dogs then?

sorry for going of topic and i take no sides as Ive never really thought about it..

[Merlin M]

Originally Posted by Xero

I dont want to get involed since i see and "debate" taking place lol.. but just wander whats your lots views on cross breeding dogs then?

sorry for going of topic and i take no sides as Ive never really thought about it..

Well dogs are a different kettle of fish! mixed dogs tent to live longer though

[egyptiandan64]

Not quite the same thing Steve as dogs are all the same subspecies of wolf. Actually it makes a much healthier dog if cross bred as most pure bred dogs are very inbred.
Breeding a Hermanns and a Star together is like breeding a dog with say a maned wolf or bushdog, same family but not very closely related.
If you want to get into the dog discussion Steve start a new thread in other animals.

Danny

[EJ]

Most herp keepers would not spend any money on a hybrid. This is especially true among tortoise keepers.

I like hybrids because it is similar to producing different color morphs. I think it is neat to see what nature would allow.

A Hermanns with a Star pattern would be pretty cool looking if you think about it.

Originally Posted by stells

Why would you want to... oh hang on... i get it... these sort of hybrids would be easy money wouldn't they... thats the only reason i can see that you would want this pairing to work... greed.. i'm sorry but this just angers me... there are others of us trying to find the best matches for our tortoises... and then others who will breed anything together... give me strength.

[EJ]

Many tortoise keepers don't believe it is 'right' to keep tortoises in captivity even though they keep tortoises themselves.

In my eyes the male is getting some and the female seems to be receptive to his advances. I see no harm nor foul.

How is this different from there being 2 Hermanns or 2 Stars? They are just pets after all.

Originally Posted by X DANIELLE X

I second this....I do not believe this is right even though you say they have been together six years in the garden it's still not natural. They will not cross paths in the wild so they really shouldnt in our care either. In my eyes you are tormenting the male star and torturing the female Hermann by allowing him to bother her in the first place!m

[EJ]

Why isn't it the same thing. All dogs are descendant from a single or multiple species. This is also a practice that is becoming popular with cats.

I also think the paralell is appropriate to mention here as an example.

Originally Posted by egyptiandan64

Not quite the same thing Steve as dogs are all the same subspecies of wolf. Actually it makes a much healthier dog if cross bred as most pure bred dogs are very inbred.
Breeding a Hermanns and a Star together is like breeding a dog with say a maned wolf or bushdog, same family but not very closely related.
If you want to get into the dog discussion Steve start a new thread in other animals.

Danny

[EJ]

What the person is asking for bicephalic or any freak reptile is very different from what it actually sells for. Albinos can also fetch a good price but this is not the same thing with hybrids unless it is a really cool looking animal.

I wouldn't pay more than $100 for a hybrid anything. It would be worth no more than a pet or an oddity.

Originally Posted by stells

A normal RES would go for what $5 over there... if you want one with an extra head... you pay $3795 more http://www.turtlesale.com/home/index...doption-page-4 seriously.

[Joanne2407]

Originally Posted by stells

A normal RES would go for what $5 over there... if you want one with an extra head... you pay $3795 more http://www.turtlesale.com/home/index...doption-page-4 seriously.

That has really shocked me!! Soooo sad xx