I got a new male greek today - Page 2

Becks · 02-08-2006, 10:26 AM

lovely torts dan and gr8 pics as always m8 .

luv becks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

piglet · 02-08-2006, 10:47 AM

Dan that would be good i would like to see more pictures of her please .
Dan she looks like she has some radiating marks from my picture also looks domed with length in the body, slightly flares marginal scutes ,small face her brow looks raised and her first vertabral scute is rounded rather than square a true characteristic of whitei or gracea usually ibera are more square in the face lacking the prominant brow which is characteristics of whitei and graeca plus shes big enough.
i have whitei and she looks very similar almost identical except colour but then i have seen brown whitei before too not all are yellow coloured.
I'm not a expert at id and would never say i was but stilldon't think shes ibera but i hope i'm wrong .
Darren

**egyptiandan64** · 02-08-2006, 01:01 PM

I'm uploading pictures now

. No fair Darren getting me all excited :P , but alas no she's ibera. If I was in the UK it would have been more then possible, but being in the US not possible. We've never been able to import from Algeria. When she came in as a WC in 92 we were only importing from Turkey, had been for a while. It only stopped when Turkey closed down in 94. She's just from an area that wasn't collected from that much I'm assuming, which is always bad

. If you get a chance to look at the Terralog Turtles of the World Vol. 1 check out the ibera picture on page 71 top left. Thats what she looks like. She only has 2 spots of black on her abdominal scutes and a couple others scattered around and clusters of spurs.
Here are the new pictures

Dan

sandy · 02-08-2006, 02:30 PM

I must admit I agree with Darren, she does look like a whitei.

piglet · 02-08-2006, 03:38 PM

Dan Thanks for adding the extra pictures but really sorry but i'm just not convinced still think north Afrcan graeca, whitei

But will chck out the terralog book when it arrives on orderits taking a life time to arrive.
Heres my female taken at at a similar angle to yours .
She weighs 2090g and SCL is 22 cm
I suppose we shall beg to differ on this one

Dazza · 02-08-2006, 09:18 PM

hmmm difficult on, very intertesting, prehaps post and ask andy !!

Gonna sit on the fence on this one..

Darren

terrific tortoises · 02-08-2006, 10:49 PM

Either way, it must be great to finally get a pair Dan, that is a very large female mate

, she must have the potential to lay large egg cluthches?...T.T. 8)

**egyptiandan64** · 02-08-2006, 11:09 PM

Thanks TT

, it is after 8 years of searching

. I hope she has huge clutches

Dan

02-08-2006, 10:26 AM	#11
Becks Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Somerset UK Posts: 4,035	lovely torts dan and gr8 pics as always m8 . luv becks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx __________________ horsfields ,redfoots ,southern and northan morrocans, map turtle . http://www.redfoottortoiseplace.piczo.com

02-08-2006, 10:47 AM	#12
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	Dan that would be good i would like to see more pictures of her please . Dan she looks like she has some radiating marks from my picture also looks domed with length in the body, slightly flares marginal scutes ,small face her brow looks raised and her first vertabral scute is rounded rather than square a true characteristic of whitei or gracea usually ibera are more square in the face lacking the prominant brow which is characteristics of whitei and graeca plus shes big enough. i have whitei and she looks very similar almost identical except colour but then i have seen brown whitei before too not all are yellow coloured. I'm not a expert at id and would never say i was but stilldon't think shes ibera but i hope i'm wrong . Darren __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

02-08-2006, 01:01 PM	#13
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	I'm uploading pictures now . No fair Darren getting me all excited :P , but alas no she's ibera. If I was in the UK it would have been more then possible, but being in the US not possible. We've never been able to import from Algeria. When she came in as a WC in 92 we were only importing from Turkey, had been for a while. It only stopped when Turkey closed down in 94. She's just from an area that wasn't collected from that much I'm assuming, which is always bad . If you get a chance to look at the Terralog Turtles of the World Vol. 1 check out the ibera picture on page 71 top left. Thats what she looks like. She only has 2 spots of black on her abdominal scutes and a couple others scattered around and clusters of spurs. Here are the new pictures Dan __________________

02-08-2006, 02:30 PM	#14
sandy Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent UK Posts: 12,146	I must admit I agree with Darren, she does look like a whitei. __________________ < > 60+, keeping ibera, graeca and box turtles \0/ /_\ http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/tortoisefriends

02-08-2006, 03:38 PM	#15
piglet Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,976	Dan Thanks for adding the extra pictures but really sorry but i'm just not convinced still think north Afrcan graeca, whitei But will chck out the terralog book when it arrives on orderits taking a life time to arrive. Heres my female taken at at a similar angle to yours . She weighs 2090g and SCL is 22 cm I suppose we shall beg to differ on this one __________________ 17 years old 25 years ago

02-08-2006, 09:18 PM	#16
Dazza Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 2,486	hmmm difficult on, very intertesting, prehaps post and ask andy !! Gonna sit on the fence on this one.. Darren

02-08-2006, 10:49 PM	#17
terrific tortoises Member Juvenile Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 861	Either way, it must be great to finally get a pair Dan, that is a very large female mate , she must have the potential to lay large egg cluthches?...T.T. 8) __________________

02-08-2006, 11:09 PM	#18
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Thanks TT , it is after 8 years of searching . I hope she has huge clutches Dan __________________

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