Might have found my male pancake

[littlestar]

Originally Posted by sarah

Someone contacted me who has a pair
The male has paper work 9 years old
The female doesnt as he had her before paper work was required

Im only paying for the male but the female comes with him.

Ive asked him to write a letter stating that:
no money was exchanged for the female
where he got her from and when
his name and address

Im hoping defra might give me a artical 10 to register the babies.

What do you think? do you think i will get a artical 10 off defra
Have i included all i need from him, in the letter.

hi Sarah keep us informed how things go.

[sarah]

Originally Posted by littlestar

Thats great to hear sarah, glad you finally got him ,fingers crossed. (think we will miss the wanted adds though) Dont think they paper work should be any problem mainly because of there/her age. hows your Pancake eggs doing?
Put me down for a dozen

Thank you
I have 3 fertile eggs YAY

Originally Posted by lacard

Hello Sarah, glad you managed to talk to that chap on RFUK
If I were you, I would add on the papers that the female is older than [...](the date that papers where needed for this kind of tortoises). And I wouldn't mind having my name on the list to reserve a baby or 2 from you as well ^^
Well done!

Which Chap?
These were not found via RFUK

Originally Posted by andy1

Hi sara
Good luck with the new male.

For the female You may be lucky to get paperwork allowing the use for breeding only. But if you can provide proof she was imported pre convention then maybe a full cert will be issued.

You can not apply just because she was gifted, otherwise everybody would do it.
Regards andy

Thank you he stated the female was purchased before pancakes needed paper work
He said in a email:
The female was bred by the late Mike Sherborne of Tackley Road, Bristol who had a huge collection of tortoises but he kept Pancake tortoises before they required certificates. I swapped a leopard tortoise for the female Pancake with him and as a result she does not have any paperwork. Mike was well known in the tortoise community and when he worked was a keeper at Bristol Zoo.

Originally Posted by red foot marg

i think from last year derfa tightened up on a10's ,i don't think its as easy as i used to be , a gifting letter seems to be only any use if you can prove they where in the uk before 1984,i do know of people that have adult tortoise's that have been here before that date yet there application's have been turned down , even a holding licence that would enable them to register any young.

I will ring DEFRA tomorrow morning and see what they say

Originally Posted by littlestar

hi Sarah keep us informed how things go.

Thank you
Will do

[sarah]

Oh i forgot to say

Im not getting them till next weekend, a reptile courier company who i use is picking them up for me. I just hope it all goes to plan

[THEHANDOFOMEGA]

Excellent news

[Lyn]

That's great news Sarah!
Good luck with Defra.x

[sarah]

Well i rang DEFRA and they were RUBBISH
Basically told me he should apply for the paper work and not me.
Ive told them i have a courier booked in and they are coming to me on saturday.
Basically the woman at the end of the phone had not got a clue.
I had to say about writting a letter and she said, yes make sure they include all details about how the enquired the tortoise etc etc
Then once i have the letter i have to send it to them and fill out a form.

Anyway

YAY THEY ARE COMING SATURDAY !!!!

[Bindi]

Great news about the male Sarah, well chuffed for you

At the end of the day, you can only try, if they (Defra) won't play ball, it's not the end of the world...you got a lil boy Pancake !!!

[sarah]

Originally Posted by Bindi

Great news about the male Sarah, well chuffed for you

At the end of the day, you can only try, if they (Defra) won't play ball, it's not the end of the world...you got a lil boy Pancake !!!

Thank you
Its just a pain in the bum, the woman and the end of the phone didnt care.
Yes you are right, i only wanted the girl and im getting them at a very good price.

[Katie-n-spoon]

Originally Posted by sarah

I would contact the nice lady you had them off and see if you could get them to write a letter to say they were gifted to you.

im sure she wouldnt mind, hehe x

[sarah]

They are coming today yay