Please help me identify my tortoise!

bb2202uk · 06-11-2011, 07:25 PM

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Hi, i currently have this tortoise, which im unfortunatly trying to sell. Im having some problems with its "identity" though. I bought the tortoise as a Marginated, this is what the pet shop sold me it as and this is what the certificate says.
I then advertised it and ive had numerous emails saying its a herman! can anyone please identify what it may be!

Also, for my knowledge, ive never sexed it! was told you couldnt tell till there older, if any1 could sex it that would be great too.

many thanks to anybody whom can help me
james

alley cat · 06-11-2011, 10:33 PM

I am no expert but would say female Thb (Hermann)

judith ann · 06-11-2011, 10:57 PM

I would agree with that .Looks just like my two .
Judyxx

**egyptiandan64** · 06-11-2011, 11:05 PM

Yes it is a female Eastern Hermanns, Testudo hermanni boettgeri.

Danny

burnt toast · 07-11-2011, 03:32 PM

Hello James as I thought definately a Hermans. Hope you can get somewhere with the pet shop now.

Here are a couple of photo's of my Marginated as promised:

I think im right in saying only Marginated's have these sets of triangles on their Plastrons. (Hermans certainly dont) So as yours wont, that is another pointer for them!

**egyptiandan64** · 07-11-2011, 06:25 PM

Egyptians do Lynn

but not as many.

Danny

burnt toast · 08-11-2011, 10:28 AM

Whoops, trust me Dan! (Just trying to give James some pointers to help him when he goes back to the pet shop, who are still claiming said tort is actually a marginated, as it has a "slight skirt!" )

I suppose if they still wont accept it isnt a Marginated that they sold him, he might have to go to defra?

**egyptiandan64** · 08-11-2011, 02:21 PM

Yes I think going to DEFRA might be the best idea. It sounds like the petshop isn't getting or giving out the right A10s and should probably be looked into.

No problem Lynn

and yes only a Mrginated's plastron looks exactly like that.

Danny

06-11-2011, 07:25 PM	#1
bb2202uk Junior Member Egg Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1	Please help me identify my tortoise! http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...35230922_n.jpg http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...93593950_n.jpg http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...28746457_n.jpg Hi, i currently have this tortoise, which im unfortunatly trying to sell. Im having some problems with its "identity" though. I bought the tortoise as a Marginated, this is what the pet shop sold me it as and this is what the certificate says. I then advertised it and ive had numerous emails saying its a herman! can anyone please identify what it may be! Also, for my knowledge, ive never sexed it! was told you couldnt tell till there older, if any1 could sex it that would be great too. many thanks to anybody whom can help me james

06-11-2011, 10:57 PM	#3
judith ann Member Hatched Join Date: May 2011 Location: Salisbury ,Wiltshire Posts: 302	I would agree with that .Looks just like my two . Judyxx __________________ 0.0.2.THB.Squirt and Tilip 1.2.0.Dogs .Ziggy,Fen andPurdie 0.2.0.Cats.Phoebie and Matilda 0.1.0.Freisian Mare.Trijntsje 2.0.0.Budgies.Oliver and Magic 2.0.0.Russian Dwarf Hamsters.Morgan and Toby. 0.1.0.Teenage Ggrandaughter. 1.0.0.Long Suffering Husband. 0.1.0.Sulcata Fluffy 1.4.0.Children 2.6.0.Grandchildren

06-11-2011, 11:05 PM	#4
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Yes it is a female Eastern Hermanns, Testudo hermanni boettgeri. Danny __________________

07-11-2011, 06:25 PM	#6
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Egyptians do Lynn but not as many. Danny __________________

08-11-2011, 02:21 PM	#8
egyptiandan64 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: USA Posts: 14,171	Yes I think going to DEFRA might be the best idea. It sounds like the petshop isn't getting or giving out the right A10s and should probably be looked into. No problem Lynn and yes only a Mrginated's plastron looks exactly like that. Danny __________________

06-11-2011, 10:33 PM	#2
alley cat Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Somerset Posts: 3,150	I am no expert but would say female Thb (Hermann)

07-11-2011, 03:32 PM	#5
burnt toast Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,246	Hello James as I thought definately a Hermans. Hope you can get somewhere with the pet shop now. Here are a couple of photo's of my Marginated as promised: I think im right in saying only Marginated's have these sets of triangles on their Plastrons. (Hermans certainly dont) So as yours wont, that is another pointer for them!

08-11-2011, 10:28 AM	#7
burnt toast Senior Member Adult Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 5,246	Whoops, trust me Dan! (Just trying to give James some pointers to help him when he goes back to the pet shop, who are still claiming said tort is actually a marginated, as it has a "slight skirt!" ) I suppose if they still wont accept it isnt a Marginated that they sold him, he might have to go to defra?

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