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I have two cockatiels who have a custom made floor to ceiling corner cage, they are both getting on now and the choice of finding them a new home wasn't a option when we knew we had to move. Their choice if that had happened was either to move to an outside aviary which probably would have killed them in the winter and both are handreared so don't really associate with each other let alone an avairy full of other birds or a small shop bought cage. we opted to have them come with us, most of the time when let out they choose to sit on your shoulder and have a scratch, rarely do they fly much prefering to walk around the furniture, they do have their own uv light as I know uv doesn't pass through the window, they seem to like looking out and let me know when there's something different in the garden. I think they have a good life, the best that we can give them, they are never left alone overnight if we go away they go to a local person who boards them for us, they have a 'night light' as they are getting on and have been known to get on the cage floor and can't find their way back up to where they sleep, they have no drafts and the room is always warm in winter. They know the time they come out and put themselves back into their cage when its time to go to bed, I don't think we could make their lives any better and both were rescue birds having come from not very nice homes and very small cages. Being handreared cockatiels I doubt they'd live very long if released into the wild and being put outside into an aviary for a bird that has been used to being in a warm house would in my mind be cruel, we have tried that before with two parakeets we used to have and they spent all the time sitting in the corner looking terrified they came back in again after a week or so as they were so miserable.
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all the year round? isn't that what we're talking not just overwintering, not even outside for a few hours on a nice day? I wouldn't have had my dog if we didn't live where my hubby works and are surrounded by fields and garden, if our flat was in a town with no outside space then we wouldn't have had him or I worked full time so he was left on his own. I wouldn't have had the torts, when we did if we again didn't have outside space but then I wouldn't have had the children if all we could offer was a flat, perhaps I'm just fussy but i had a garden as a child, grew up around animals and had parents who felt the same as me, who were as outspoken about animals and their care as I so maybe they should be blamed that I grew up to be someone who cares.
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I have a very elderly friend who cannot get out she has care for a lot of the things she needs but she has a tortoise that is about 25 years old it did go outside but due to her not being able for a good few years now it hasn't seen the light of day for a good few years now but it is in perfect health. if she gave it up im sure she wouldn't live long as it gives her so much pleasure. |
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they can choose an animal or bird that can live with them as a companion and doesn't need a lot of active care, a lot of older people have a budgie which can be a good friend and appreciates someone who's there most of the time. You can get someone to walk a small dog for you but how does your elderly friend pick up the tort I know mine were heavy and often nipped my fingers between the shell and leg, how would they manage to clean it out or even replace a bulb without help. My Milo is what you would call a lapdog, he's a chihuahua/papillon so while he likes his walks doesn't need as much as he gets, he likes nothing better than to sit next to you or on your lap. My parents would love another dog but are now to old to walk it and might fall over it and know it so it will never happen but they love to see Milo. Mum's elderly neibour though has had a budgie for years who is a good companion and doesn't need much active care, there are suitable pets for different homes but that doesn't mean any animal you just have to accept what you can care for properly in your surroundings and situation.
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The OP wasn't talking all year round. They had the tort in September! It didn't say they weren't plannimg on making an outdoor enclosure.
But PG, I will say, you answered your own argument with how nice your birds enclosure is! That is ideal. The OP is getting a table.
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so what im trying to say is maybe we should try and bite our tongues before we jump in and send people running |
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Gordon do you know why your torts get ill when outside? can't Tunisians be put out even on good days, I only ever kept Ibera that were tough as old boots, even the hatchlings would be out in their little run if the weather was ok. I think I'm right in that Tunisians don't hibernate but why would they become ill in nice weather unless the 'bug' that causes them to be ill can live in the grass and thus reinfect them?.
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