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**Alan1** · 06-07-2010, 08:04 PM

I don't know how they fail but they fail. jazz just said it failed in her dog

**Alan1** · 06-07-2010, 08:08 PM

wasn't there a remake of that film starring dennis quaid? or was that something else? he was injected into someone

EJ · 06-07-2010, 08:16 PM

Don't tink so.

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Originally Posted by caledonia

wasn't there a remake of that film starring dennis quaid? or was that something else? he was injected into someone

lisalass · 06-07-2010, 08:18 PM

yeah there was alan it was called innerspace

Kirkie · 06-07-2010, 08:33 PM

Incidentally, at the meeting where hatchling microchipping was discussed the speaker from the CITES team mentioned that CITES regulations state that any animal sold as captive bred has to be the offspring of captive bred (F1) parents. Something I wasn't aware of.

EJ · 06-07-2010, 08:38 PM

why is that improtant?

How would you suggest regulating the WC trade.

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Originally Posted by Kirkie

Incidentally, at the meeting where hatchling microchipping was discussed the speaker from the CITES team mentioned that CITES regulations state that any animal sold as captive bred has to be the offspring of captive bred (F1) parents. Something I wasn't aware of.

NATURALIS · 06-07-2010, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ

why is that improtant?

How would you suggest regulating the WC trade.

most of my breeding group of Ibera arn't captive breed most are in there 40/50's so how would that work with regard to getting there hatchlings paperwork if the parents have to be captive bred?

**Bindi** · 06-07-2010, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by red foot marg

most of my breeding group of Ibera arn't captive breed most are in there 40/50's so how would that work with regard to getting there hatchlings paperwork if the parents have to be captive bred?

Have to say that's confused me too. I think that would be news to alot of breeders

Jazzotang · 06-07-2010, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by EJ

how can a chip fail? It is a hard wilred device.

Hi EJ i had not heard of it happening either, the dog went in for its annual inoculation and the vet allways scans to check the dogs temperature before going ahead. Only last year the reader could not find the chip, they scanned everywhere and it just did not register. The vet knew he had one as they had implanted it, he did say that he has had this happen before. I wondered if it was because it reads the dogs temperature as well and maybe this caused the fail. The dog is only 4 years old so i do not think it was the age of the chip, anyway the new one is working fine.

NATURALIS · 06-07-2010, 09:18 PM

The thing that concerns me also is at the moment providing your only using one male you only pay one £25 for all hatchlings in your group , so does that mean on top of the micro chip costs we will have to pay for each and every a10 licence at £25 each , at the moment if say you breed 10 from a group you pay £25 full stop, if this comes in you will have the cost of 10 micro chips say the vet charges £20 each thats £200 then theres the a10 licences at £25 each so thats another £250 .

total now for 10 ....................£25
total cost then for 10 ............£450, that works out at £45 each.

I can see if that does happen i for one will be giving mine away with a £200 tortoise table.

06-07-2010, 08:04 PM	#21
Alan1 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny Scotland Posts: 21,512	I don't know how they fail but they fail. jazz just said it failed in her dog

06-07-2010, 08:08 PM	#22
Alan1 Super Moderator Adult Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Sunny Scotland Posts: 21,512	wasn't there a remake of that film starring dennis quaid? or was that something else? he was injected into someone

06-07-2010, 08:18 PM	#24
lisalass Member Hatched Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 428	yeah there was alan it was called innerspace

06-07-2010, 08:33 PM	#25
Kirkie Senior Member Adult Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 4,887	Incidentally, at the meeting where hatchling microchipping was discussed the speaker from the CITES team mentioned that CITES regulations state that any animal sold as captive bred has to be the offspring of captive bred (F1) parents. Something I wasn't aware of.

06-07-2010, 09:18 PM	#30
NATURALIS Senior Member Adult Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: cheshire Posts: 3,472	The thing that concerns me also is at the moment providing your only using one male you only pay one £25 for all hatchlings in your group , so does that mean on top of the micro chip costs we will have to pay for each and every a10 licence at £25 each , at the moment if say you breed 10 from a group you pay £25 full stop, if this comes in you will have the cost of 10 micro chips say the vet charges £20 each thats £200 then theres the a10 licences at £25 each so thats another £250 . total now for 10 ....................£25 total cost then for 10 ............£450, that works out at £45 each. I can see if that does happen i for one will be giving mine away with a £200 tortoise table.

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