Defra Announced Inspection - Page 3

hels · 07-09-2007, 06:40 PM

Has a special fondness for toes with red nail varnish? And it really does hurt!!

Madhouse · 07-09-2007, 08:36 PM

Youch - I bet it does hurt!! Let us know if the man from DEFRA has red nail varnish on

Take care

phoenix23db · 07-09-2007, 09:52 PM

i know the feeling, i was in the garden the other day pulling some overgrown grass from the tort enclosure, and i got bitten on the toe by Herbie, the little monster got me when i wasnt expecting it. i think it was the shock more than the pain that spooked me lol but i dropped all the grass id pulled out and stood up pretty quick

hels · 08-09-2007, 09:28 AM

Maybe Herbie liked the grass where it was and didn't appreciate your re-organising!

Jacqui · 08-09-2007, 05:05 PM

Did they give you ideas on just what they are inspecting? Is this dealing with husbandry or just making sure you actually have those animals? What happens if a person "fails" the inspection?

hels · 08-09-2007, 06:36 PM

I submitted an application to DEFRA in Bristol about 2.5 mths ago for four duplicate CITES Certificates. I had mislaid the original certificates, so I contacted the original breeder and she provided me with the Certificates numbers of the tortoises that I had purchased from her [all the information was recorded in her record books - very organised].

I heard nothing for about 6 weeks then I received an email asking me for the measurements of the tortoises. I provided these by email, then nothing for about 4 weeks. Then out of the blue I received a call one evening last week from an inspector from DEFRA to inspect my set-up. I rang him back, he said that he wanted to come and see the tortoises - take measurements, photos of the tortoises and check that they were UK bred. How you can tell that a tortoise is UK bred by looking at them I just don't know. He told me that I apparently have horsefields [which I don't] and hermanns [which I do]. One of the other questions that he asked was whether I had any other tortoises here. I confirmed that I have another 9 and told him what they were. That was Tuesday last week and I am just waiting for him and a trainee Inspector to visit!! The Inspector said that they regularly go and inspect would be breeders [and I was just No. 10 or whatever the lucky number was for that month] Oh great!!

I have since rang DEFRA in Bristol to confirm that the inspection is legitimate and apparently it is!!!

hels · 10-09-2007, 03:55 PM

Thursday at 5 pm.

Worried? No - terrified.

EJ · 10-09-2007, 05:38 PM

No need to be. Especialy if you are respectful and accommodating. I have yet to meet or talk to an official (both in the US and the UK) who was threatening when treated with respect.

Even if they find something wrong they all seem to appreciate those keepers that try to work within the law and will do almost anything to produce a positive outcome.

Considering this is also a training visit that is also a plus in your favor.

I'll bet it turns out as a pleasant and positive experience with a good attitude.

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Originally Posted by hels

Thursday at 5 pm.

Worried? No - terrified.

Lyn · 10-09-2007, 05:40 PM

I will wish you luck for thursday even though I know you won't need it

laine21 · 10-09-2007, 06:34 PM

Tea and biscuits or coffee and muffins ask them lots of questions i would!

07-09-2007, 06:40 PM	#21
hels Junior Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 45	Has a special fondness for toes with red nail varnish? And it really does hurt!! __________________ 5.0.4 Testudo Hermanni 1.0.0 Testudo Graeca 10.8.8 Testudo Ibera 0.1.1 Leopard 0.0.1 Testudo Whitei 0.0.2 Indian Star 2 corn snakes, 3 daughters and a Yorkshire husband

07-09-2007, 08:36 PM	#22
Madhouse Senior Member Sub Adult Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1,020	Youch - I bet it does hurt!! Let us know if the man from DEFRA has red nail varnish on Take care __________________ Steph - Wife to an ever patient hubby, Mum to four children, 2 dogs, cat, 3 newts, numerous fish, an eel, 3 dwarf hamsters, my 2 baby torts Mickey & Theo (Med. spur thighs) and Mr Grumpyboots Harries (Adult male Horsfield)

07-09-2007, 09:52 PM	#23
phoenix23db Member Hatched Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: County Durham Posts: 426	i know the feeling, i was in the garden the other day pulling some overgrown grass from the tort enclosure, and i got bitten on the toe by Herbie, the little monster got me when i wasnt expecting it. i think it was the shock more than the pain that spooked me lol but i dropped all the grass id pulled out and stood up pretty quick __________________ Danny... 1.3.0 Hermann's (Boetgerri) 1.0.0 Horsefield 0.2.0 Leopard's

08-09-2007, 09:28 AM	#24
hels Junior Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 45	Maybe Herbie liked the grass where it was and didn't appreciate your re-organising! __________________ 5.0.4 Testudo Hermanni 1.0.0 Testudo Graeca 10.8.8 Testudo Ibera 0.1.1 Leopard 0.0.1 Testudo Whitei 0.0.2 Indian Star 2 corn snakes, 3 daughters and a Yorkshire husband

08-09-2007, 06:36 PM	#26
hels Junior Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 45	I submitted an application to DEFRA in Bristol about 2.5 mths ago for four duplicate CITES Certificates. I had mislaid the original certificates, so I contacted the original breeder and she provided me with the Certificates numbers of the tortoises that I had purchased from her [all the information was recorded in her record books - very organised]. I heard nothing for about 6 weeks then I received an email asking me for the measurements of the tortoises. I provided these by email, then nothing for about 4 weeks. Then out of the blue I received a call one evening last week from an inspector from DEFRA to inspect my set-up. I rang him back, he said that he wanted to come and see the tortoises - take measurements, photos of the tortoises and check that they were UK bred. How you can tell that a tortoise is UK bred by looking at them I just don't know. He told me that I apparently have horsefields [which I don't] and hermanns [which I do]. One of the other questions that he asked was whether I had any other tortoises here. I confirmed that I have another 9 and told him what they were. That was Tuesday last week and I am just waiting for him and a trainee Inspector to visit!! The Inspector said that they regularly go and inspect would be breeders [and I was just No. 10 or whatever the lucky number was for that month] Oh great!! I have since rang DEFRA in Bristol to confirm that the inspection is legitimate and apparently it is!!! __________________ 5.0.4 Testudo Hermanni 1.0.0 Testudo Graeca 10.8.8 Testudo Ibera 0.1.1 Leopard 0.0.1 Testudo Whitei 0.0.2 Indian Star 2 corn snakes, 3 daughters and a Yorkshire husband

08-09-2007, 05:05 PM	#25
Jacqui Member Incubating Join Date: May 2007 Location: Nebraska, USA Posts: 216	Did they give you ideas on just what they are inspecting? Is this dealing with husbandry or just making sure you actually have those animals? What happens if a person "fails" the inspection?

10-09-2007, 03:55 PM	#27
hels Junior Member Egg Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Berkshire Posts: 45	Thursday at 5 pm. Worried? No - terrified. __________________ 5.0.4 Testudo Hermanni 1.0.0 Testudo Graeca 10.8.8 Testudo Ibera 0.1.1 Leopard 0.0.1 Testudo Whitei 0.0.2 Indian Star 2 corn snakes, 3 daughters and a Yorkshire husband

10-09-2007, 05:40 PM	#29
Lyn Senior Member Adult Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 3,533	I will wish you luck for thursday even though I know you won't need it

10-09-2007, 06:34 PM	#30
laine21 Member Hatchling Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Moreton, Wirral Posts: 632	Tea and biscuits or coffee and muffins ask them lots of questions i would! __________________ Laraine ___________ 4 Leopard Tortoises, 2 Baby Herman Hatchlings, 2 dogs, 1 guinea pig, 2 daughters and 1 incredibly wonderful patient partner!

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